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.45 ACP Powders For Gamer loads

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As some of you know of recent I have become quite intrigued with powder and trying to understand how to assess and apply the differences successfully. I'm searching for a soft, clean & accurate (45 acp) powder for target and a "gamer" load.

Hodgdon said the new WinClean 244 might have too much velocity for my needs however suggested to look at Clays, HP38 & W231.

I compared those only to find HP38 & W231 have the exact same stats, exactly! Why? Some on forum chatter says they are the same powder. Another said they are the same powder but HP 38 meters better. How can one meter better if they are indeed the same powder?

Are they really the same powder marketed with different labels?

And Clays requires less of a charge and has a higher pressure rating, indicating it burns faster?

And he77, speaking of pressure ratings, there are two (cup & psi) of which apparently there is not a formula to convert and compare them to each other.

I suppose many go through this in the early years of reloading, if so what helped most in your learning curve to get you over the hump? It can't be as difficult as it seems...

Looking for the light...
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HP38 and W231 are the exact same powder. Hodgdon packages both from the same lots.

WST is stable, but is reverse temp sensitive, that is, higher pressure at lower ammo temps, but those are in the extreme.

Clays is very fast and the load density very small, hence a very clean burning option.
 

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i just picked up some .45 acp dies and am going to start reloading it too; of course i'm putting the cart before the horse as i don't have a G30 yet. at any rate, i'm a big fan of the summers hi-tek in 9mm and i'm assuming the .45 is just as nice. given the discussion here, i shouldn't bother with SWC, but go to the RN or RNFP offerings:

http://www.summersenterprisesllc.co...ast-lead-bullet-p/hi-tek-45-200grrnfp-500.htm

http://www.summersenterprisesllc.co...rd-cast-lead-bullet-p/hi-tek-45-233gr-500.htm

is this just a question of choosing between 200 and 233 grain? do they seat at similar depths or is that something to take into consideration?
I would steer clear of SWC for the G30. I prefer the 230gr in RN profiles, but the 200's will work fine as well.
 
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