Glock 17 43x and 48 actually stainless?

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  1. Underwhere

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    I got my slides cut for the rms-w and started wondering whether I would need a refinish. If it's stainless I won't... But having a hard time figuring out what they actually are.

    Glock's site says these are silver nPvd finishes but these look very much like a bead blasted stainless to me.

    All the nPvd finishes I've seen have been smoother to the touch. Bead blasted stainless has a particular feel to it. These slides feel just like that.

    The slides are magnetic...but so are other stainless objects I tried.

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  2. Mike-M

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    Glock makes no stainless steel slides...which removes all justfication for such a pointlessly cosmetic abomination like those "silver" slides.
     

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    Assuming Glock engineering department hasn’t jumped the shark, they are still using a gas nitriding process (which replaced the old Tennifer salt bath nitriding). This allows the use of relatively easy to machine, inexpensive steel... with a surface layer which is more resistant to rust than stainless. That milling process cut right through it like a getting to gooey center of a tootsie pop.

    The easiest, cheapest option is to cerakote it and just rub some oil on it when the finish wears down over those long radius cuts. If you want the most durable carry finish I’d go for hard chrome from a reputable company. Two I know of are

    http://www.mahovskysmetalife.com/

    https://apwcogan.com/refinishing/
     
  5. Underwhere

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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I'll probably do a DLC coating then.
     
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    I’m very interested in seeing how the RMS-W works out for you, I’ve considered milling my 43 for one but that polymer lens scares me a little. I’ve been planning on waiting for a downsized closed emitter sight like a ACRO suitable for small CCW guns.
     
  7. Underwhere

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    I have a milled 43 with the rms on it.
    Been rocking it in heavy ccw rotation.

    The original plastic want the greatest but be versions are better?

    End of the day you aren't spending tons of time staring at lens looking for scratches.

    I had 1 or 2 small scuffs on mine. Makes no difference to me.

    I had 2 issues with my rms.
    1. Flicker solved with a new battery tray
    2. Lost auto adjustment for to water damage (shooting in the rain)

    Is not a RMR

    But I am willing to mill these slides for the new waterproof ones. It fits the bill.

    I also like the 43x and 48 frame much better than the 43
     
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    Does the nPvd finish replace the usual nitriding or is the steel still nitrided underneath the nPvd?
     
  9. Underwhere

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    You choose one or the other I believe.

    I think that pvd is a great surface finish while nitride actually hardens the metal but is less durable as a finish.

    Who knows what to believe.

    What I do know is that the pvd finish on 2 of my guns has held up very well and I'd do it again.
     
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    Here is an easy alternative. This now resides on my G48. Works very well. Yes the dot sits a little bit higher but I have no problems with it.

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  11. Underwhere

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    That looks like it requires milling and some drilling and tapping?

    I prefer to keep the rear sight. My rms has gone down on me twice. The rear sight that is built into the rms needs to be lower to work with most of the glock front sights out there.
     
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