.410 for home defense?

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  1. M2 Carbine

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    This is a pretty cool 410 pistol.

    It's a Thompson Center Arms 45 Colt.
    It has a rifled barrel and a removable choke for shooting 410 shotgun shells.

    I've never shot 45 Colt in it.

    I don't shoot it much. The last time was a few weeks ago when I shot one of my Drones out of the high tree it crashed into.
    Shot the branch without getting one pellet in the Drone. :)

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    I also have the scoped .223 barrel for it.
    Cool plinking gun.
     
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  2. fiasconva

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    We had someone shoot 2 holes in the door of the school I was teaching at with a 410 loaded with slugs. It was done late at night so no one was in the building. Those slugs went through the old metal type school doors and through a cinder block wall before stopping. Imagine what they would have done to a person at self defense range. Remember that it's the only shotgun true to its caliber and is a .41 cal load. I would have no trouble using a 410 loaded with slugs if that was all I had.
     
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    Not to be argumentative but at room distance, any shotgun is not going to open up much more than 2". And the energy from a shotgun projectile is not going to be dissipated at any different rate than a projectile from any other firearm. A .410 has just shy of double the energy, if that what you want to compare, of most 9mm loads. Again, not the best option but not the worst either.
     
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    The 28 gauge is everything the 410 should be, but unfortunately it isn't very common and when you see one, they're built on a 20 gauge frame instead of a 410 frame. A small 28 gauge would be the perfect "youth" shotgun, just as easy to handle, but easier to hit with and would also be very good for defensive purposes especially in a semi-auto 14 inch bird's head grip "shockwave" type gun.

    They used to say a 16 gauge kicked like a 12 and hit like a 20, but the 28 kicks like a 410 but hits like a 20.
     
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    I would like to have at least a 20 gauge but if that's all I had, then yes.
     
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    Mossberg makes a "security" model 500 in 410 with an 18" bbl, stock and pistol grip.

    At one time they made a purpose built "Home Defender" 410 with a spreader choke and a vertical fore grip.

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    They also make a 410 Shockwave non-shotgun.

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    Buckshot and slugs out of 410 shotgun reach magnum velocities. Not so much out of revolvers.
     
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    Moss berg’s Shockwave in 410 is pretty handy. So is the S&W Governor. I would be happy using either for home defense. I have a TC with the same barrel as shown above. I’ve never considered it for home defense but it would be much better than a sharp stick.
     
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    The federal 4 ball load in a .410 like the mossberg or the new Henry Axe would be no joke as a house gun.
     
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    ScotchWhisky HEMIs, guns, and booze

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    Nope, too many better choices.
     
  10. Struggle_Russ

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    Honestly if you were gonna use .410 for HD, that new Henry Axe starts to looks pretty decent.
    Handy in a home and for corners, small storage space, side loading, light recoil, still punches hard at bedroom distance. Definitely not a cheap gun for the job though.
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    Yes. But be mindful, 21/2" shells only. I think it is also awkward to cycle when extended forward at eye level.

    The sweetness is, however, undeniable.
     
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    Gun>frying pan

    Although I know there are better options I wonder how a Judge/Governor would do?

    I've watch Hickok45 pattern a .410 at 20 feet with birdshot, slugs and buckshot. I would't want to get by it.
     
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    A .410 would not be my first choice but it would do the job if needed.
     
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    There are better choices, but a shotgun shooting is almost instinctive and soft lead deforms so easily.
     
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    To be fair, I see it as a hip gun in a room. I did forget it only takes the one shell size. Poop!
     
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    Cutting down an old lever action deer rifle and chambering it for a shot shells is different. Try levering a short stocked firearm and maintaining you target.
     
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    Now that Federal as well as Aguilla (and I think one other company) are making 1.5" 12 GA shells, maybe the .410 looses some appeal?

    They won't cycle in every gun, but they throw a heavier payload than the .410 while offering a substantial reduction in recoil over a standard 12 GA. Plus, additional capacity.

    I think a dedicated 1.5" 12 GA Shockwave with a brace and shooting buck would be about ideal for HD.
     
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    Yes I would and I am considering the NEW Henry Lever Action .410 shotgun. They have a short stock version called The Axe which is only 26" long and just maybe I might trade in my Shockwave for this gun. Check it out!
     
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    If I was buying a HD shotgun it would be a 20ga . Its also a long gun an old person ,soft man , children and any women could use if needed . And a 20ga can pack more energy at a 100 yards than a 410 can at the muzzle but not much more recoil in a semi auto like a Mossberg Sa-20 tactical