I have Rainier .40S&W 165gn plated bullets. They load and shoot very well. My .40S&W 165gn FMJ bullets arrived from www.evergladesammo.com. I'm finding it difficult to locate trusted load data for 165gn bullets. It's also hard to locate FMJ load data. My newly purchased Hornady manual does not cover 165gn .40S&W bullets at all. Its as if 165gn bullets do not exist. Why is this? 155gn and 180gn load data is all over the place, but not 165gn and not FMJ. Why is this? Are these relitively new variations or what? My Lee manual covers 165rn FMJ as well as plated, but the powder loads are (as discovered in other threads) light. I don't know how to take data from a similar bullet and calculate a load for my bullet. I am not ready to try something like that.