.40 +p

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  1. SIUC4

    SIUC4 Glockness

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    I have the new cabelas spring catalog and Buffalo Bore Ammo is advertising .40 +p 180 gr. JHPs. Anyone familiar with this round? Is there going to be a noticable difference from other 180gr JHPs?
     
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    The 40S&W is already loaded to max pressures. I've never heard of a +P 40S&W. I wonder how much hotter BB could possibly make them and stay safe:shocked:.

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    +P in the .40 is marketing ploy. If it is in fact loaded higher than 35K, I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole. That being said, you can reload the .40 200fps faster than factory easily and still be safe. I think they use the +P moniker to show that it's faster than factory, hopefully not because it's higher pressure.
     
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    ".40S&W +P" is either a KABOOM! waiting to happen - or a marketing ploy designed to induce the belief that the particular load treads into 10mm territory.

    There is no such load.

    Neither is there a "10mm +P," even though the now-defunct Texas Ammo Company once (and very briefly) marketed their full-power 10mm ammo as "10mm Express" - which is what some thought meant "10mm+P" - in order to distinguish it from the herd of watered-down 10mm crapola that merely duplicated the .40S&W.

    But TAC eventually dropped the "Express" designation from their 10mm loads, letting the ammo's high-performance velocity & energy specs speak for themselves.

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    After a tiny bit of research on Buffalo Bore, I'm passing on any 10mm (which is slightly relevant here considering they use the same bullet). BB pushes it so fast even the 180 grain Gold Dot had jacket separation.
     
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    Nice avatar, G20. :wavey:
     
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    Thanks G8Kpr. I don't remember what website I got it from. I typed in Christian avatars and picked mine from one of those sites.
    God bless.

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    I boycott 40 +P rounds
     
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    Marketing ploy IMHO.
     
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    I think the 40s&w is like 40k.
     
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    I handload and reload for .40 and case head separations and kabooms are always a concern when loading for these guns. .40+P is BS IMO. They may be using some of the newer powders (800x, longshot, something we can't buy...) to get better than average velocities, but they don't want to exceed 35k - especially with some of the Glocks out there that were made with poor case support.

    180g at 1150 is no problem at all and is a powerful .40 round. It stays at safe pressures with the right powder. Buffalo Bore advertises there's at 1100 fps. I'm sure they have a little safety buffer built im so I believe it would be safe ammo. They also use good brass.

    The +P is marketing IMO. Buffalo Bore is good ammo in my experience - just very expensive.
     
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    If you want penetration I can say that their 200 grain FMJ is one heck of a good load. I have never tried their Gold Dot load though.
     
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    Same opinion here regarding their 10mm ammo. Very good stuff, but you get a box of 50rds from DT for about what you pay BB for 20rds. :whistling:

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    Why stop at +P. Georgia Arms sells a 155 Gold Dot +p+ 40 cal. :whistling:
     
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