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40 or 357

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by jljbtm, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    Go with the .40 S&W 180gr - it penetrates better than the .357 SIG. Penetration is crucial in handgun bullets.
     
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    Thanks for all the posts, I think I will go with the .40 barrel for now and consider reloading the 10's
     

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    Do you reload 10mm? If so, I'd get the .40S&W. They both use the same bullets.
     
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    SCmasterblaster I'm new to the thought of reloading so you say the bullets are the same? what about the brass?
     
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    How does the 357 sig compare to the .40 as far as recoil goes? I have a G27 and considered buying a G33.
     
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    Similar, the .357sig just has a quicker snap and less push. Kinda hard to describe and depends a little on what weight .40 round you use.

    You can just pick up a Glock 33 barrel, drop it in your G27 and go shooting. Don't like it, sell the barrel. I have .40 barrels for all .357sig Glocks.
     
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    The bullets are the same between 10mm and .40. The brass is definitely different - the 10mm is longer than the .40. The first .40 was the Glock 22, edging out the cartridge inventor S&W by a few weeks.
     
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    Well I bought the lone wolf 40 for my 10mm then went to two walmarts last night and literally the only stuff left was 40 so I bought the last 4 boxes then went to the other Walmart and bought the last 11 boxes. I also made an offer to buy a press on eBay.
     
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    There is definitely a difference between the .40 S&W and the longer 10mm.
     
  10. JimIsland

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    I would get the .357 Sig but that's me. You might not be able to walk into any store and find it plentiful on the shelves, but I've had no problem finding it on line....even now. I have nearly 4K rounds in my safe and it was easy to find.
     
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    Poohgyrr trout fear me!

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    Well, yes and no on bigger...

    I was very happy with my Gen 2 G23, and 40 Hi Powers - until I put a 357Sig in my Gen3 G35.

    The Glock in 357Sig is so much more accurate for me that it almost doesn't make sense to even have a 40 anymore....

    My G23 is with family and the Hi Powers are keepers - they still shoot very well.

    357Sig ammo costs about as much as 45ACP, and I bought mine cheaper. Reloading saves a lot of money.

    But my last new gun was a G31. And a factory G22 barrel, and Lonewolf 9mm conversion barrel.

    40S&W and 9mm ammo is so common (except now) that it makes sense to be able to shoot those rounds too.
     
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    I wonder how hard it is to reload .357SIG ammo with the shoulder situation?
     
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    For myself, the 357Sig has more of a straight back push, less muzzle flip, and overall the recoil is noticably easier.

    The biggest advantage I have is the HUGE improvement in accuracy. Rounds on target is what counts. And the standard & compac frame Glocks are much easier for me to carry than the large frame models.

    Several people have told me the G33 is a blasty thing (short barrel) - the G26 may be a lot easier to put rounds on target with.
     
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    Well, I still practice mostly with all that 40S&W ammo I have. :upeyes:

    The reloading question you asked is why I stayed away from 357Sig for so long. Luckily, everyone seems to say it is not a problem - search it here for several posts on why and how to reload the round. (I have the dies but just haven't loaded for it yet.)

    Again, the accuracy is what changed my mind. Well, the street results help too - equal to the old 125gr 357 Magnum, with much less recoil, more rounds, and lightweight/Glockness.

    :supergrin:
     
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    Yes, the shorter-barrelled Glocks have more powder burning beyond the muzzle.
     
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    My G33 is definately a fireball. I've noticed that during practice, there's very little difference between practice ammo and HP defense stuff. To the contrary, I notice a big difference between 9mm practice stuff and some good HP +P stuff.
     
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    Makes it much easier to save brass also. You don't have to pick it up all over the ground.
     
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    You can go as cheap as $20 for a Lee Loader or go $1,700 for a Dillon 1050 progressive press.

    Consider the Lee turret press kit for about $150.
     
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    I'd get a Dillon 550B - but wait, I already have one. :cool:
     
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    The local Wal-Marts in these parts are rationing all their ammo in order to make as few customers unhappy as possible. Two boxes per customer limit.