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40 gr VMAX bullet in 1/7 barrel?

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Dizzy Beaver, May 16, 2013.

  1. lilglockboy

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    Yea my mom's friends, uncle's cousins ex sister in-laws baby sitters brother knows someone that's knows someone from their schools that knows this other guy that hog hunts at no less than 3400 meters with 40gr bullets from his diplomat barrel. Some of you crack me up:rofl:
     
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  2. WoodenPlank

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    We don't even bother hunting them any more. We just lob a couple of the old Birdman Nuke50s into the area and let the radiation handle the problem. I really need to burn up the last box of that crap before it degrades any worse, though.


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  3. ithaca_deerslayer

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    I've read this said many times but never asked.

    Why length and not weight?

    I would think it is both.

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  5. Gunnut 45/454

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    It's the way the bullets engages the rifling, shorter bullets might not engage the rifling in a straight line every time because they are seated deeper and have a longer gap to jump to engage! Longer bullets are generally seated closer to the rifling there by engage it faster with out the wobble you can get with shorter bullets! IE they tend to be more accurate! Not a garentee but a higher probability! Ask any Long Range Match shooter and they like there long heavy for caliber bullets seated .002" off the lans or closer!:supergrin: Also dedicated Varmint guns are tuned to shoot the lighter bullets tend to have short leads to use the short bullets and slower twist rates.
     
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  6. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Interesting that the link above did not talk about the jump into the threads. Good info you are providing about that and seating.

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    Good explanation of in flight characteristics. Thanks :)

    Oh, interesting that he does say weight does matter, too.

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  9. Gunnut 45/454

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    Yep I've known long range guys that go so far as to ensure the there cases are perfect centered- they have case gauge sets/tools to see if the neck roundness is perfect- also the bullets make sure they seated perfectly - no wobble when you roll them on a flat surface so they engage the rifle centered every time! Very anal - but they like to shoot flys at 200 yards! And like $10,000 guns and glass! They really hated me when I would out shout them with my Savage 110 stock '06
    cheap glass and reloads. Now I couldn't compete with them past 250 yards! But I'd give then fits under that!
     
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  10. mgs

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    If will depend on how smooth your rifling is. You can not over stabilize a good bullet. It may tear itself apart if the jacket is too thin and fails from rotational stress at a high velocity. The 52 grain match King is very accurate in a 1:7.....better than the 69MK at 100yds. The 69MK does better at 300yds. Use some medium or reduced loads if the 40g comes apart at higher velocities. My one AR will shoot the Hornady 50gSX and another will not. All barrels, chrome-lined or not, will shoot some thin skinned bullets and others will not. I'm sure a 1:9 would be better.
     
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    I literally laughed out loud on that one. Hahaha
     
  12. BossGodfrey

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    LOL, I use to think the same thing until I got into Palma shooting last year. Now I am one of those anal guys.
     
  13. Gunnut 45/454

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    Not knocking you long range guys - just stating facts! To achieve the scores they shoot constantly is all about tight tolerances and big money guns/glass. I love shooting just could never justify the exspense required to shoot at that level!:supergrin:
     
  14. Boxerglocker

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    I was going to say... I loaded over 600 rounds of 40's 50's Vmax bullets for a prairie dog hunting trip in Montana last summer. I shot out to 500 yards with my Remington 700 SPS 1-9 and my son used a DD 1-7 AR out to 250 yards with a 10X MOA SWFA scope. We killed lot's of them.
     
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    Cabela's had Fiocchi 50-grain VMAX yesterday so I grabbed my 5-box limit. I won't get to test them out for a while as I'm waiting on some Troy sights so hopefully the Fiocchi isn't a waste of money!
     
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