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40 cal SINGLE STACK

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by EYEMD, Aug 25, 2006.

  1. EYEMD

    EYEMD

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    mga sir, uso na daw sa manila 40 cal SS, currently using 45 single stack sa mga laro dito sa amin

    pwede ba palitan topend para maging 40? suggestion ng brand na pwede gamitin, wag lang po masyado high end ang price.

    ano magazine dapat gamitin pag naging 40 cal na?

    nag hanap ako ng thread bout this topic wala ko makita, need inputs. tnx
     
  2. mikol

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    hi EYEMD,
    ano currently gamit mo na SS cal.45?
    kung non-ramp barrel support yung frame mo, try mo inquire sa shooters kung magkano complete top end nila ng Sam Alpah/Omega.
    check out their website; http://www.shootersarms.com.ph/pistols.html

    sa tingin ko complete top end lang, cal.40 mags(mec-gar/para) & gunsmith to fit the top end to the frame kilangan mo to have another SS pistol. :)
     

  3. Eye Cutter

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    problem is, the .40 is a high pressure round. you should use a ramped barrel and you have to cut the frame for the barrel ramp. that will make your .45 cal pistol unusable or as a substitute top end.

    mura armscor .40 cal bull barrel. 3.1k lang daw, if its available. mecgar has .40 cal mags. kung walang stock, pwede rin gamitin orig .45 mags. your smith can make a spacer to use in the .45 magazines. mahaba kasi .45 cal rounds. you can look for .40 mecgar mags at armscor or twin pines.

    for the slide, maghintay ka ng mga standard shooters na merong Para P16-40 na nagpapalit ng topends nila to STI or SPS slides and schuemann or barsto barrels. Awitan mo na lang mga orig ParaOrd topends nila. Complete na yun. Frame na lang kelangan and magazines.

    Your friend who changed his Para to an STI unit na gawa ni Tolentino, wala na ba yung Para slide and barrel niya?
     
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    tnx MIKOL @ EC, esep esep, para sa project na ito. other than the additional 2 rounds ano pa benefit mag lipat sa 40 single stack?
     
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    yup doc EC is right, you have to alter the ramp of your frame to accept the ramp supported cal.40 barrel for armscor.

    meron sana cal.40 standard barrel ang SAM, but as doc alvin mentioned, high pressure ang cal. 40 so you'll be safe to get the supported barrel nalang.:)
     
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    get a sam single stack frame so you can cut the ramp there and either a used 40 top end or a sam slide and armscor 40 barrel.
     
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    akula BizDuc NM Millennium Member

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    Di pa yata final yung Rules for the proposed Single-Stack Division. Ngayong September pa daw i-discuss ng IPSC Rules Committee, but yung sa USPSA medyo restrictive yata. Ayaw nila ng bull-barrel at load-8 lang yung .40, otherwise gawing minor yung scoring mo. Main advantage lang sa 40 over 45, is mas malambot yung putok, although depende na rin sa personal preference.
     
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    mga sir tanong lang po how many round maximum capacity ng single stack 40 kaya ba 10 rnds? modified base pads? meron ako nakita 9 rounds chip mccormick in 10mm, yun mecgar 8 rounds .40
     
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    I've seen a Kimber single stack in .40 S&W when I visited an indoor range last month. It was a nice gun. If I'm not mistaken, the gun already had an internal extractor (as opposed to the first Kimbers that had external extractors which gave shooters reliability problems). I wanted to try it, kaso lang $70.00 for a day pass, gun rental and 50 rounds of ammo was just expensive for me.

    I first got to try the .40 S&W (I've been shooting .45s and 9mms) when one of my brothers let me use his BulM5 at a club shoot when I visited them in 2004. I actually liked the soft recoil of the .40. The BUL had a polymer frame, so it added to recoil dampening.

    Akula,

    Here's the link to the USPSA provisional rules on single stack division:

    http://www.uspsa.org/rules/1911_Single_Stack.pdf
     
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    Doc, pardon me, don't know much about .40 cal., what's with the high pressure round and having the barrel ramped?
     
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    you need to support the base of the bullet at the breech end, otherwise, pag putok, bulged brass or worse case KABOOM! :supergrin:
     
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    Dami ko pa palang dapat malaman tungkol sa .40 cal. Thanks doc, I'll remember that! :thumbsup:
     
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    Parang matuloy yung Provisional/Temporary 1911 Single Stack Division. Isusulong yata ng mag IPSC Regional Directors ng Italy at Czech Rep, together with Michael Voight (USPSA Prez) pagdating sa Greece next month (September). Nasa IPSCVision yung letter ng Czech RD.

    Personally, I may not buy the .40 Mecgar S/S because I can't load my .40 long. I tried my existing load into it, but it won't fit. Standard .40 lang. I already have a few 10mm mags, but I need to make adjustment on the follower.
     
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    j. san ka nakabili ng 10mm mags? wala ako mahanap.
     
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    doc pwede yata yung wilson mags para sa 40, parang nabasa ko dati ba be na yung wilson 8 rounds sa 45 and 9 rounds sa 40
     
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    Doc, medyo matagal ko nang natago ito. About 4 years na. Sa APL-Cebu yata to galing. Also, yung Novak at Mecgar .45 mags, kasya yung .40 cartridge -- 9 rounds pa rin. Hindi ko pa naputok dahil still on-hold yung .40 project... but I ALREADY have the MAGS !?! :)
     
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    ah! i see! sabi nga ng kapatid ko pwede mecgar mags. just load it long, mga 1.200in

    i'll try to contact APL again. sa kanila ko nabili Para Ord 9mm mags ng LDA ko before. sila lang ang meron in the whole Phil. ng orig PO 9mm mags before!
     
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    mukha po yatang walang APL sa ating directory ha? baka nandun nga ang mga hinahanap kong parts!:supergrin: