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357 Sig Slow Death

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Jmay, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. Jmay

    Jmay

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    Let me say up front i love my Glock 31 and the 357 is a great round in my opinion. I was a little late to the game on the 357 Sig but i have one now kinda post hype i guess.

    My question is do you guys think 357 sig is dying out? I read all over the place on the web its on the downhill. I believe it does exactly what it was design to do and delivers the ballistics as advertised out of reals guns not test barrels and not many guns can claim that.
     
  2. Chaos Cosmonaut

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    I believe that the .357 sig will be around around for a long time. Just never going to be as popular as 9,40,45.
    It seems as though more and more agencies are going back to 9mm so if that is true the .40 s&w may be getting a little less popular as well.
     

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    It may be, and I say that as a recent discoveree as well, but also because I'm seeing a fair amount of 357 Sig ammo at a discount price, something I always thought as unheard of. I really, really like the round, and have managed to accumulate 2 50 cal. ammo cans full, but will continue to look for more, if I can get a deal on it. Damn it's loud though!
     
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  4. Jon_R

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    I shot a cqb class with a guy who is an air marshall. He had box after box of top qaulity 357 sig ammo. We burned through about 800 rounds that weekend. i assume he shot 95% of the 357 sig shot that weekend in FL. I don't think I have ever seen it at a match (idpa, uspsa, etc...)
     
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    I get great pricing and service from both sgammo.com and Targetsportsusa.com on this cal. Super happy with both.
     
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    I just bought a .357 conversion setup for my 229.
     
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    6Actual Trump Backwater Mafia Silver Member

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    One of my favorite calibers, laser accurate, reaches out at a distance for a handgun and hits like a train. I got lots of brass and bullets and good dies.... die out? never for me
     
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    If you get a good boolit mold and reloading die set you will never run out of
    ammo, and you will shoot for five to eight cents a shot.

    You can go through some of these and find what you like,

    https://www.google.com/search?q=bes...ome..69i57.20475j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I have used this boolit up to 1670 fps in the six inch LW
    conversion barrel in a G20, mine falls from the mold at
    131 grains. At the higher velocity it is a good killer.

    https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0000690574/double-cavity-mould-358-125-rf

    https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0000690306/6-cavity-mold-358-125-rf

    It also works great in a 9mm, 38 and 357 mag.
     
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    If the price of .357 Sig ammo was the same as 9mm prices...
    9mm would be the one to slow down in popularity.....
    Money talks and that alone is what keeps 9mm in the limelight...
    Some folks like less recoil and somewhat better control with the 9mm vs the .40...
    But that's not the real reason....
    The real reason is money money money....The overall cost to operate...
    Bottom line....Law enforcement and general public want cheap 9mm ammo...
    .357 Sig and .40 will be around a long time...You just have to pay the price to play...
     
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    The .38 Super is still around, but I'm not sure what that proves.....
     
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    I have 5 or 6 guns chambered for 357 SIG and I reload the caliber about as cheap as 9mm.
    I don't know about anywhere else but 357 SIG isn't dying out at my place. :)
     
  12. Jmay

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    That reminds me i want a 38 super also, preferably in a Commander length.
     
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    Well i mean like didnt S&W drop the 357 sig from the lineup as well as Springfield? So whats that leave Sig and Glock?
     
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    Cant wait till the .357SiG kit for the MPX comes out
     
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    If the 357 Sig had come out at the same time as the 40 I think police agencies wouldn't be switching back to 9mm. When we switched to 40 Glocks I thought great a more powerful round, however, on the street it didn't stop bad guys any better then the 9mm. Same performance with fewer rounds and more recoil. Now guys I know on another dept. swear buy the 357 Sig. It doesn't just hit harder it also has the penetration needed for vehicles. When you approach the 125gr. 357 mag loading that was well proven on the streets for many years what's not to love.
     
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    I haven't shot anything but paper and cans with my 31, but i bet it jcould handle pigs. I have killed alot of pigs most with 3" 686. They are tough but not the army tanks the internet gurus would have us to believe.
     
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    I doubt it'll ever completely fade away. Why would it? It's a semiauto caliber which can be chambered in the same frame size as 9/.40 pistols, which means it fits a lot of hands.

    Granted, it's slowly losing ground when it comes to LE usage, but in the private sector it's an enthusiast-driven caliber.

    Even if a couple of fed agencies eventually decide to transition away from it (to 9mm), as has been rumored (once their exhaustive stockpiles of ammo are about depleted), as long as the major ammo makers keep producing ammo, using the newest JHP's, it'll be a viable option for the private shooter's defensive choices. Not to mention the avid handloading enthusiasts.

    I rather expect it'll remain a strong contender for 4th place among service caliber choices for some years to come.

    Ought not this topic be better discussed in the Caliber sub-forum, though?
     
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    It is dying, but these things take s long time.

    Over time prices will creep up (more than other ammo) and availability will slowly drop off. But you'll be able to buy it, at an ever increasing price, for a long time to come.
     
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    That's generally true but it only applies to loaded ammo, not reloads. I have a 4 inch barreled Smith & Wesson model 58 M&P service revolver and a 6 1/2 incgh ruger Blackhawk both of which I truly love in 41 magnum caliber, which has long been considered "obsolete", so I know something about obsolete handgun cartridges .

    41 mag brass is not any more costly than 44 magnum brass and I use the same powders to reload it with as I do the 44 and 357 magnum calibers and even the 10mm. The only loaded ammo that I buy is the HSM "cowboy" load which is excellent for a plinking load and is fairly reasonable priced.

    It costs very little to afford to buy a basic reloading set-up. A lee hand press, a priming tool, an electronic scale, and a decent power measure plus a kinetic bullet puller, a micrometer, and a couple of 50 round loading blocks and a Loadbooks USA manual.

    To a reloader, "Obsolete" is just a state of mind.

    Once fired range brass for the 357 sig is available now for reasonable prices. buy a few thousand cases and you'll be set for life and with a G32 you can also get a 9mm barrel and shoot plentiful 9mm ammo in the same gun.

    The 357 Sig is just too good a chambering to die. It produces as much raw power as a 357 magnum with 125 grain bullets in guns that recoil less, have better triggers, and hold more ammo.
     
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    HK dropped it too, right? But it's still widely more used in LE compared to 10mm and .45 GAP.
     
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