357 Sig for the first time today.

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  1. Sechott

    Sechott

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    I bought a P229, it can't with a 40sw and 357 sig barrel. I only bought a box of Speed Lawman TMJ 125 ammo, just to experience shooting the 357. I shot 2 magazines and also the same amount in 40. The 357 seemed to have noticably less recoil and I was able to make tighter groups. I didn't notice any difference in noise level, but I'm sure if I had been observing instead of shooting, I probably could hear a difference. It's a very nice round to shoot, though much snappier than a standard 9mm. More in par with a light blow back 380 pistol. If you own a 40, I recommend getting a 357 barrel.
     
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    357 Sig is fun. I definitely notice it being louder than 9 or 40.
     
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  3. PattonWasRight

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    Just give it time

    Will become the new "must have" caliber, have a resurrection of adoption when something else loses favor ... *cough* *cough* 9mm
     
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    I recently found a 357 Sig barrel for my Gen 1 M&P40. Curious to see how it shoots. It is a fun caliber to shoot.
     
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    Do any of y’all reload for this? This is what holds me back; there is absolutely positively no way I could afford to buy the ammo for it.

    My buddy has one, a Sig I think, and he asked me to try it out. It was sweet. He said he thought I’d like it since I love .40 so much. He also makes $200 annually.
     
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    357 sig is good. I feel safe and confident in winter with G33.
     
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    I reload for the 357 sig. ammo for it is expensive. but, it costs no more to reload it than 9mm. heres what I found about reloading 357 sig. you have to use bullets made for the higher speed. most 9mm bullets are rated at 1250 max. I use berry bullets rated at 1500. when I first started reloading for the 357 using my 9mm bullets, I couldn't keep them on my target frame. the ones that were on there some were key holed. I found the 357 to be a very accurate round. have to be more careful reloading it because of the short neck.
     
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    I got into the 357sig with spare bbls for my delta & usp. Now I own several pistiols & since I reload everything, the 357sig is a must.
    Its not much diff than reloading straight wall cases. It is very bullet specific because of the short bearing neck tension It requires truncated cone shapes for bullets over 125gr. I use Dillon dies, expensive yes, but the only carbide available. Other dies work, you just need case lube or a 40 carbide sizer. Do NOT buy the rcbs dies, they didn't get headspace right in the beginning, not sure they ever fixed that,
    I can make good 357sig ammo for the same cost as 9mm, same bullets & primers, a 1/2c more per round for full power loads. You can even use coated lead to about 1300fs. If you like velocity, the 357sig is your round. Is it better than a 40, probably not but it is a really good round & all you need for your 40 is a bbl & reloading dies.
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    I love the 357sig. and it's a very versatile pistol when 40 and 357sig pistols are usually just an OEM barrel swap away...
     
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    Oh yes, it can clear an indoor firing line pretty quickly in a short bbl.
     
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    Speer lawman is probably the weakest 357 sig there is try some minuteman 357 sig super hot 1500 FPS 125 grain or even underwood fmj


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    I have never used lawman ammo but I have always considered Hornady ammo to be the weak sister in 357 Sig SD ammo. But thankfully when you feel the need for speed there are options for the 357 Sig.
     
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    Think about what you're saying if the 357 Sig gets popular then the bad guys will start using it, not a happy thought! Best we just keep the 357 Sig to ourselves.
     
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    The avg bad guy is not a gun guy. They wouldnt know 357sig from 357mag, never happen. Bad guys can always get whatever they want.
     
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    How many bad guys do you know or have heard of that used a 357 Sig? How many use 9s, .40s, .45s simple math. If the 357 Sig was as popular as the 9mm it would be used as frequently as the 9mm is used by criminals, not a pleasant thought!
     
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    I have more than a few LEO friends, we talk about shootings their deot ate involved in all the time. They have never said, "you wont believe how nany 357sig cases we found at the scene". The fact the 357sg is not populare us why it never will be scene in criminals hands in any significant number. Ammo is too exoemsive, recoils too much, bad guts are basically spray & prsy & high cap pistols suite them.
     
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    Exactly, that is what I said. However if it were more popular more 357 Sigs would find themselves in criminal hands.
     
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    loading for 357 Sig requires caution because it's a very high pressure cartridge to begin with and seating certain bullets too deep will boost pressures and you also have to have sufficient neck tension and a good crimp on the bullet to prevent setback

    But as long as you use bullets that have a longer shank and a shorter nose and load to the recommended OAL using published data and stay below max, You'll be OK.

    A Loadbooks USA manual for 357 Sig will provide you with specific load data and OAL dimensions for bullets specific to the 357 Sig so you won't run into any trouble especially if you're an experienced reloader.

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012856166?pid=955169
     
  20. Mahalo_.357sig

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    You will love it... The balance of the M&P makes the sig round feel like HOT 9mm. Love my M&Ps
     
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