Mas: I respect your wisdom, knowledge and no-nonsense factual responses to questions. Now that I've buttered you up; here's my question. I'm looking to buy a .308 as a back-up CC gun, for ankle or pocket carry. (My primary CC is a G-27 carried OWB SOB or OWB 4-5 o'clock.) Can you, from personal experience or reliable research, recommend a couple of brands/models of .308s. My considerations, in order of priority, are: reliability; cost; customer service; and magazine size. Also, can you recommend a good self-defense round for the .308? Thanks for your time.