300 (Movie)

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  1. horge

    horge -=-=-=-=- Lifetime Member

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    My wife and I enjoyed it.

    Never mind the mangling of the Ephors with Delphic Oracle-priests;
    the horrid treatment of Queen Gorgo;
    the absence of the courageous Thespians, Phocians, Boeotians, etc.;
    the rendition of Ephialtes as Gollum/Quasimodo;
    robbing Dienekes of his historic words;
    the dark skinned (!) Persians;
    the light skinned (!) Spartans;
    the mustachioed Leonidas;
    the bald and beardless Xerxes;
    the confused treatment of the Gerousia, AFTER the Ephors had spoken;
    ...and above all, the decidedly un-laconic yelling from the
    King of the Laconians (or Lakedaimonians, or 'Spartans' if you like),
    etc., etc....

    The visuals were engaging, and if the filmmaker wanted to
    showcase only the sacrifice of the 300 (much as Frank Miller did),
    then mission accompished. We were entertained.

    Possibly the most unabashed and artistic use of CGI in cinema to date.
    If you haven't seen it yet, it's a pretty neat date movie, beyond
    just "bloodshed for the guys, and sweaty six-packs for the girls".

    :)
    horge
     
  2. Eye Cutter

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    talaga bang bading si xerxes???

    i enjoyed the movie, too
     

  3. horge

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    Hi Alvin :)

    Xerxes, according to ancient histories, was extremey tall,
    very fair-skinned, and among the most handsome men in the world.
    He was not as bloodthirsty as his father Darius, and for this
    he was thought of by some as 'soft'.

    Male homosexuality was no biggie then, especially among the Greeks,
    including the Spartans, possibly in the same way that female
    homosexual experimentation is less than shocking today.

    Back then, the ideal of human beauty was the male, not the female.

    :)
     
  4. vega

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    Already showing there???
    It only started here today.
     
  5. Eye Cutter

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    yup, last March 7 pa start ng showing dito. may pirata na nga, e! hahahaha!

    a lot of our local officials can learn a thing or two from watching this movie....

    :thumbsup:
     
  6. AllanRR

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    I got this review from another site. Pretty funny but oh, so true:animlol:

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    300 - Reviewed by Neil Cumpston


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    EDIT: Hi Allan, horge here :)

    Interesting review, 'pare, but some of the language in it is too crude
    for the atmosphere Eric is trying to encourage here on GT.
    Linking to it is also not allowed, but I've left the review title
    and author above, for those who wish to Google for it on their own.

    Feel free to re-edit this whole thing to remove my paw-prints,
    provided you follow the GT Terms of Service.

    Cheers,
    :)
    h.

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    Pepe308 Noypi

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    Sir Horge, please tell more of 300's history! Like the movie but don't like Xerxes looking gay. Does the Spartans just dressed up only with a red cloak and a cool helmet? I remember someone told me, the 300 Spartans were the ones brave enough to fight the million Persians, any truth in this?
     
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    the gore is tamed compared to Apocalypto.
     
  9. horge

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    Pepe :)

    Retelling it here, in a manner satisfactory to my own liking,
    would eat up all of Eric's bandwidth. The carnage took place in
    480 B.C. (That's more than a century before Alexandros the Great
    was born in Makedonia.) Anyway, for the Battle of Thermopylae:

    There's an online English transcription of Herodotos Halikarnasseus'
    Historia, which contains a late (440 B.C.) account of the
    Persian invasion, and the Greeks' defense of Thermopylae, in Book VII
    ("Polymnia"). Of course, Herodotos was an Athenian, and prone to
    downplay Spartan credit to make Athens look better.

    There should also be an online transcription somewhere hopefully, of
    Mestrius Plutarchus' Apopthegma Laconica ('Sayings of the Spartans')
    in his Moralia, vol. III ...if you want a citation for the
    much-quoted 'molon labe'. Extreme caution must be used, as the record
    is very late (around 1 A.D.).

    A lot of folks recommend Gates of Fire a modern novelization
    by Steven Pressfield (1998) as among the best dramatic retellings available from any era.

    :)
     
  10. vega

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    As a child, I remember watching a classic a looonnnnnngggggg time ago. Did the movie showed Leonidas shouting "MOLON LABE"?
     
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    do they sell spears and swords as SOE?
    after the movie the next thing that came to my mind was SOE. i just dont know why.
     
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    Archeologists have discovered the remains of AK-47 parts at Thermopylae, leading to the unescapable conclusion that those smart Greeks had invented not just Greek Fire and steam engines and pi, but also an early version of the assault rifle, hence their having been able to hold off a horde of Persians. They ultimately lost because Ephialtes came around behind them and cut off their supply of ammo.
     
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    Dibidi copy na?

    Alang sinabi yang 300 sa Battle of Tirad Pass! Hehe, joke....
     
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    I had to bodily-drag my wife (and a promise to watch three(!) chick-flick movies in exchange) last night to watch 300. Thank God she didn't ask for 300 chick-flicks or I would have rather stabbed myself with a xiphos sword. It's a successful morphing of a graphic novel to the silver screen.

    The use of CGI was fantastic; the battle scenes had this operatic aura-feel about it; musical score is unbelievably good. This will only be the eighth movie I'll buy in R1 DVD format.

    I truly recommend Gates of Fire by Pressfield. Presently reading Virtues of War (about Alexander the Great) by the same author.
     
  15. horge

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    First off, I goofed and hit the "edit" button, rather than "quote".
    My apologies, vega! :)


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    The 300 Spartans starring Richard Egan, et al. :)
    I have it on DVD, and yes, Leonidas answers in Greek.
    He doesn't shout it, though, but says it firmly to the emissary.
    The production tried to hew closer to the historical record,
    but the film technology available in 1962 wasn't up to it.
     
  16. bulm540

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    Bu tthe Phocians abandoned Leonidas' rear allowing the Persians to sneak behind line plus a greek spy did supposedly tell the Persians the back door.
     
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    Capt.Barbel Humanda sila!

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  18. horge

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    Yes, Ephialtes did betray his fellow Greeks.

    The Phocians resisted Xerxes' "Immortals" (which is said to be
    a misnomer, as the Persian words for Immortal, 'anousiah', and
    Companion, 'aniseh', can appear similar: they were simply Xerxes'
    personal guard, or constant 'companions'. Even "Xerxes" is a
    Grecian mangling of 'Kashayar Shah'... but I digress, as usual
    ).
    ;)

    According to some accounts, the Phocians fought a collapsing defense
    to delay the Persians, while Phocian runners sped word to Leonidas.
    They were caught by surprise, yes, but if the above version is true,
    the Phocians' delaying action against extremely professional Persian
    soldiers is why Leonidas had the time to call a council, send home
    most of the defenders, and organize a final defense, before the
    Persians had them encircled.

    Other accounts have the surprised Phocians falling back to make a
    determined stand, only to have the Persian force bypass them, and
    then reduce the defenders with volleys of arrows.

    Those Phocians' descendants would be the heroes of the Second Battle
    of Thermopylae (279 ? B.C.), against a vicious Gaulish horde that had
    already scattered other Greek armies. The Gauls eventually settled
    elsewhere, what became known as Galatea, and which our St. Paul
    addressed with his 'Letter to the Galatians'.


    :)
    horge
     
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    I don't balme the Phocinas though. They withdrew from the rear of Leonidas to protect Phocia, . The 300 or 1,300 did fight valiantly, Ultimately the disparity in Numbers did overwhelm the Spartans.
     
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    Little did the Spartans know that thousands of years after their epic defense of their motherland, they would be crushed underneath FILIPINO feet!

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