2A Probably seen before, but...

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  1. DAKA

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    LONG LIVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT…..
    There are 30,000 gun related death s per year by firearms; this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
    65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws. 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified. 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence. 3% are accidental discharge deaths.
    So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now let’s look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
    480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
    344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
    333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
    119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
    So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
    This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
    Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
    Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
    Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assaults are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.
    But what about other deaths each year?
    40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
    36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
    34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
    200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!
    710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So, what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths.
    The second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”
     
  2. Gray Dood

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    Feel better now? :)

    You're right though. Wrote one of my first term papers in college on this very topic. It was back in the Jurassic when you could have a divergent opinion.
     
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  3. fg17

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    Do you have some links for your statistics?
     
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    Typical Cheeseburger grabber.
     
  5. Gray Dood

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    Not vouching for DAKAs exact numbers, but they track pretty closely to FBI Uniform Crime Report IIRC.

    But I am flying on memory so...
     
  6. G26-Has-my-6

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    nearly 600,000 deaths per year of heart disease. They are already coming for your Big Mac.
     
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    :goodpost:

    Also when they call it "gun control" correct them. Gun control is what we do, sight picture, trigger press and so on. The correct term is gun prohibition. They want to prohibit certain guns. We know how well alcohol prohibition worked.

    Crime is a matter of will not weapon.
     
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    Yep, the "gun control" misnomer always bugged me, and now it's being replaced by an even worse euphemism: "Common sense gun SAFETY laws."

    Argh.
     
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    That sad reality is that those who think clearly already know this stuff, and those who need to hear it the most are immune to its persuasive power. #preachingtothechoir
     
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    What people do not realize is that those who are going to commit suicide will find another way possibly even suicide by cop.

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    Gun deaths are way down on stats list for causes of death in the US. It's a hot topic so the population reacts to it. Most people are like prey animals, and it doesn't take much to scare them into following.

    Third leading cause of death in the USA is medical malpractice. Look it up!

    Something so easily preventable is 3rd!!!, and it's the service that we pay the most for!

    The government and doctors aren't interested in reducing deaths. They make money off it and we have an over-population problem.
     
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  12. DAKA

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    What ^ he said
     
  13. kiole

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    My guess is a chain email that came along side his publishers clearing house mail.

    The problem is the Alabama claim of 1 murder from a gun isn’t accurate and that’s the first statistic I checked so I didn’t bother with the rest.
     
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