28 officers suspended for watching the tube

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  1. herky

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    ZACH PLUHACEK
    Lincoln Journal Star (Nebraska)



    Almost 9 percent of Lincoln's police force will be suspended without pay for watching videos instead of patrolling or doing other work, Police Chief Tom Casady said Wednesday.

    The five sergeants and 23 officers - who were working the department's third shift in the late night and early morning hours -face between one and 10 days of suspension, depending on their involvement, the chief said.

    The suspensions will be staggered and should not affect the department's minimum staffing or require any other officers to work overtime, Casady said.

    "They'll have to be scheduled over a fairly lengthy time period. I told my captains that I'd like to have all of this wrapped up by the end of the summer."

    The officers were watching movies, television shows and sporting events using online streaming and DVDs, Casady said. Most of the time, they were using work computers in the department's small substations around the city.

    They left their dispatch radios on and responded to incidents during that time, the chief said.

    He doesn't think any of the videos were pornographic.

    "I'm pretty sure that we have gotten the truth from people," he said about the content of the videos. "Everyone at LPD knows that if you lie, you're fired."

    He learned of the situation about 10 days ago, when an officer alerted a superior, he said. Casady thinks the practice started "in earnest" in 2008.

    The officers involved all waived their right to a due process hearing. Instead, Casady plans to meet with each individually.

    He's already talked with about half of those involved, and he is making all of the officers reswear their oaths.

    "It's not fact-finding," he said of the meetings. "This is hearing from the chief about how wrong what they did was.

    "I've kind of gone through the stages: mad as a wet hen, embarrassed and yeah, a little bit dumbfounded. This is just not what we do."

    He thinks the officers "lost their bearings" he said.

    He apologized for the situation on his blog Wednesday evening. "I am embarrassed," he wrote. "The ethical compass of a signifi- cant number of Lincoln police officers broke down, and led them astray. It is my job to ensure that this type of thing does not happen, and I have failed."

    Casady also said he apologized to Mayor Chris Beutler.

    "Obviously, I support him 100 percent," Beutler said Wednesday. "You just can't let these things begin to happen, and so it's good to clamp down on it right away."

    The department has taken technical measures to prevent such situations from happening in the future, Casady said.

    He would not release the names of the officers involved.

    "They'll have to tell you, because I'm not," he said.
     
  2. SPDSNYPR

    SPDSNYPR Zippy's Friend.

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    My department fights this by having an internet connection that's so slow you'd die of old age before you downloaded a movie. Smart. :thumbsup:
     

  3. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    We will pretend we don't know how you learned that fact.

    :tongueout::rofl:
     
  4. MeefZah

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    "Lost their bearings"?

    "Ethical compass"?

    They were watching videos. On third shift. Because there was nothing else to do. Jeez.
     
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    Mine fights it by not having PC's anywhere useful.
     
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    You mean there's no crime in their town?
     
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    All we ever had back in the day was a crappy BW TV with rabbit ears in the precinct break room. It often required a hit with a slapper to get a decent picture.:whistling:
     
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  8. Pepper45

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    Really? I mean, I could understand if they were blowing off calls, or their districts were coming apart while they were doing it. But at 0400 on a rainy night when you can count the cars per hour and not run out of fingers on one hand, I really don't see too much wrong with it. Unless of course, they had a policy against it. If they did and the guys did it anyway, then it's on them, they knew it was going to get them jacked up if caught.
     
  9. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

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    If it was against department policy and they knew it was against policy to do what they got caught for, then they knew the risks.

    Like anything, there is a right way and a wrong way to address certain issues.
     
  10. CAcop

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    One of our guys bought a netbook from Verizon for this very reason. Among others.

    We had an internet flap a while back at my PD. It went nowhere when they realized managers were buying big screen TVs and booking golf vacations on duty.
     
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    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

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    And, because management in places will continue to do things on duty that they shouldn't the subordinate will and should be able to as well. I am not saying whether it is right or not. I am simply saying as does the leaders, so will the troops follow.
     
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    I guess it has been awhile since this Chief worked a midnight shift. If it's a Friday or Saturday night at 0100, then the troops better be out hammering. But if it's a quiet weekday at 0400, I'd rather have the guys watching videos in the station than out crashing cruisers because they are fighting sleep.
     
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    Funny thing is, a couple of years ago, we had some pretty good snow around here. Chief was concerned about guys getting injured and equipment damaged so he ordered us to stay at the station and respond only as necessary to calls. I spent the night watching the news, movies, gun videos, etc. Took the occasional call but camped out at the station. All sanctioned.
     
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    If its snowing or bad weather I stay at the pd usually. Boss does not care. ...I still. Respond to calls
     
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    Yeah, during real bad weather it is better to respond to the accident than to be in one. During hurricanes we have a policy that once the official wind speed hits 40mph we stop all patrol operations and return to the office. From there we respond to life and death calls and a few others. The rest of our time in in front of the tv keeping track of the storm or passing time watching movies.
     
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    So they did respond to calls as needed. Think of the gas money saved or the wear and tear on the cars! What gets me is they say they weren't working so now they will suspend them? Now they definitely won't be there.


    Hey Chief can you schedule my days off without pay before my weekend so I can make a 4 day out of it? :supergrin:
     
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    Is there a difference between this and reading a book or news paper while on duty? Both are not doing "police work".
     
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    Well, we have about a dozen 42" or larger TV's with full cable service, and internet at each computer (more computers than Officers..., and we have projection video thats huge like 20' or more). When people come to tour our PD and see all the T.V's, we say we like to watch the "weather channel".

    From time to time we have 100% of our shift at the PD and watch some T.V. We go to calls, but some times things are just dead and they guys need some group time.

    But due to our midnights using youtube, myspace, and other sites, now only two computers that are locked at night have access. Sad as we used those sights to solve cases.
     
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    It doesn't sound like it affected their responses. If it did, I'm sure Mister "Moral Compass" would have gone out of his way to mention it.

    Somebody got a bug up their *** and this is what they vented their anger on.
     
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    I think reading the local newspaper can be construed as police work,"keeping up on current events', not the comics!

    I think they would have to have a policy or days off would be much harder to issue and the officers would have a recourse.

    My main concern is the new officer who is a hot dog and gets involved in something at 0330hrs and everyone and anyone has to respond from the station! Or the assault victim running down the street yelling for help has a very slow police response! And that's not what I got paid for! :dunno: