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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Gallium, Feb 25, 2010.
I like this idea!
waste of time and energy.
whichever is cheaper, 22lr or a cattle puncher.
Can't argue with that.
Guess it could be arranged but I doubt it.
27 years? Pffft!
Robert Stroud (popularly known as "The Birdman of Alcatraz", although he never kept birds while at Alcatraz) died at age 73 - having spent 54 of those years incarcerated INCLUDING 42 YEARS IN SOLITARY!
Just a point of comparison...
A million here, a million there...soon you're talking about real cash.
I don't care if he is cured or if he is even mentally ill. How many more opportunities to commit murder do you think he should get? Fortunately his buddy Clayton Fountain, who murdered another Guard at Marion the same day, died of a heart attack in 2004 so we don't have sob sisters whining about "mistreatment" in his case.
When he and Fountain were sentenced there was no Federal Death Penalty and letting him out of isolation to run up his scorecard further would be idiotic IMO.
That argument is disingenuous because the sob sisters who get their knickers in a knot over scum being executed are the people doing their level best to run the appeals out (and the costs up) until the scum can die a natural death after 30 years on Death Row.
Robert Stroud, AKA "The Birdman" also killed a Corrections Officer to earn him his time. I understand that in reality, he was a miserable S.O.B.
Birdman is actually a far flung cousin of mine - found that out as we share the last name Stroud and I traced the geneology.
Yup - killing guards is SERIOUS business - as well it should be!
Not trying to take Birdman's side in this at all. Miserable SOB is a "light" description - I've done a lot more research than just watching Burt Lancaster play a role...
I agree, sick or not you are what you are. It's sad that some people have mental illness and some can't be cured but when you start killing you need to be just locked away from everyone because you don't understand what the hell your doing. Yes if this was my kid I would still agree and would wish someone at the prison would put him out of his misery.
That's messed. I'd never want to do so much time in prison, let alone solitary confinement.
IMO you should be able to sign a form and be executed in prison. That lack of human interaction would be more torture than I can imagine anybody taking.
I'm not sticking up for him, what he did was horrible, but put this ****er out of his misery.
Although I tend to be on your side, I doubt that if you were one of the ones falsely convicted the BS you speak of would seem so mindless and inane.
I've read about this guy, and saw some specials about him on A&E. He's apparently the only person in the Federal Prison system to be given the classification "No Human Contact"
The cost of execution is inflated to make a anti death penalty argument. The factor in judges, DA's, police officers, defense attorneys..... all of which get paid if it is a death penalty case or not. They get appeals if they are sentenced to 30 years just like if they are sentenced to death.
I say keep him where he is. Give him good care so he has a loooooong miseable life. He is a POS who can't suffer enough for what he did.
How do you get falsely convicted of killing a prison guard? There are SOME innocent (of the crime) people on death row, or sentenced to life in prison...and for every one of those, there are another 3 doz who we know beyond any shadow of any doubt did it.
Let us start with those ones, to free up some space, time and capital.
Stroud was reprimanded by a guard in the cafeteria for a minor rule violation. Although the infraction was not a serious one, it could have annulled Stroud's visitation privilege to meet his younger brother, whom he had not seen in eight years. Stroud stabbed and killed a guard, Andrew Turner, on March 26, 1916. He was sentenced to execution by hanging on May 27, and was ordered to await his death sentence in solitary confinement.
That's just part of his charactor. Typical of Hollywood in any era to symphatize with a piece of trash, much the same as they love Mumia.
Where in my post did I mention the killing of the guard? I merely stated that IF you were one of the innocents then the appeals wouldnt seem such bs.
Yes, where in my original post did I mention putting innocent folks to death?
You didn't nor did I mention the prisoner in question was innocent of killing the guard. Your point? I for one am willing to put up with the mindless BS even if it saves just one innocent from being put to death or imprisoned forever, especially if its me or a family member. I'd bet a pretty penny you would feel the same if it happened to you.