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230 grain .45 bullets

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by norton, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. norton

    norton

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    Had a gift card from Cabela's and decided to spend it on a couple of hundred 230 grain FMJ-rn Hornady bullets. .451 diameter
    Am not finding specific reloading data for this bullet for .45 acp.
    Any of you use this bullet? I have several .45 acp compatible powders.
     
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  2. Timothy Courtney

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    Check out the hornady reloading manual.
     
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  3. Steve in PA

    Steve in PA

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    It's your standard 230 grain round for .45acp. There are reams of data for this bullet.
     
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  4. uzimon

    uzimon team ftp

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    Expensive.
    Can get fmj from armscor or everglades cheaper. Use that card for something less pricey. Powder maybe
     
  5. Timothy Courtney

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    i personally load zero bullets available from rose distribution. $125 for 1k. very high quality.
     
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    DWARREN123 Grumpy Old Guy Silver Member

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    Use basic 230gr FMJ data and start 10% low from max at least, work the load up a little at a time until you get what you want.
     
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    The info from ammoguide says the SAMMI specification for bullet diameter for 45acp is .452.

    [​IMG] About AmmoGuide Case Diagrams
    NOTE: Dimensions verified against SAAMI database

    [​IMG] S.A.E. (in.)
    [​IMG] Metric (mm.)
    [​IMG]
    SPECIFICATIONS
    Bullet Diameter:

    .452 in.
    Max Overall Length:
    1.275 in.
    Max Avg Pressure:
    21,000 psi
    Rifling Twist:
    1-in-16 in.
    Rifling Lands:
    6
    Case Capacity (est):
    28.7 gr. water
    Primer Size:
    .210 in.

    NOMINAL PERFORMANCE
    Bullet Weight:

    230 gr
    Muzzle Velocity:
    835 fps
    Muzzle Energy:
    356 ft-lbs
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    :confused: I dunno...
     
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  8. Borg Warner

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    I would highly recommend a Loadbooks USA manual for 45 ACP. it will have load data from every major reloading manual all in one book for one caliber only. It's a softbound booklet and only costs around seven dollars. What I like most about these books is how many different loads are listed for comparative purposes and you can chose the one that you like the best.

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/424613/loadbooks-usa-45-acp-reloading-manual

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. norton

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    I have a couple of lyman manuals plus I buy the Hodgdon annual every year. Just did not see any loads for this specific bullet.

    BTW, I am a bullet caster, so most of my .45 acp loads are lead. I just picked these up cause I had 2 gift cards from Cabela's.

    I cast lead bullets at .452 without sizing. They run fine in my 1911, S/W 325. Good accuracy, no leading.
    Hodgdon lists jacketed bullets at .451 for the .45 acp. I save my jacketed .452 bullets for .45 Colt.
     
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    .451" is nominal bullet diameter for 45 Auto.

    For that bullet, use any load data for 230gr RN in jacketed, plated or lead for the powder you want to load. For the plated or lead data, you may need to be closer to max for it to cycle reliably, depending on the gun and springs you are running.
     
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    Interesting comment about accuracy and no lead buildup problems.

    So, is it the way you cast your lead bullets to prevent lead buildup, or do certain commercial lead bullet makers use the same technique?

    Steve
     
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    Norton,

    As you have just given many examples, there's more to making lead bullets than just melting lead.

    I thought I'd read somewhere that the slightly larger diameter of the cast bullet over the JHP lead to better accuracy. Do you think that is possible? Also, do you know of commercial cast bullets, using the same techniques you use, that don't lead up the gun?

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
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    Red dot, Unique , WW231 are outstanding for this round and bullet. I'd check
    the Hornady load book for further info.
     
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    Coated lead 45 from precision and misery bullet Co shoots clean in my g21 and shoot to point of aim like no other.
    In 9mm the precision out of my 34 gives laser like poa. but does leave some lead which I vaporized with a few jacketed.
    Apologies to op For getting off topic
     
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    Just about all I shoot in my 45acp is lead bullets of diff weights. I never get appreciable leading. I just use range scrap, about 10BHN. I size to 0.452" to run in all my guns. I used to use conventional wax type lubes but am moving more & more to hitek or powder coating. Fit is king with lead bullets, lubed or coated. Shoot 0.452"-0.453" & you should never get leading. I would also add, not using TG powder. It burns very hot & can cause leading by burning the lube off. Some even report leading issues with TG & powder coating.
    BTW, for best results with lead bullets, clean the bbl of any jacketed mat'l. NEVER chase lead with jacketed. It only irons the lead into the micro pores of the bbl steel. Then you are chasing your tail trying to keep the bullet from leading. Shoot only lead over lead, jacketed over jacketed, clean between.
    Back to Hornady bullets, if they are RN, use the Lyman data. If they are trunc cone, use the Hornady data.
     
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    So, can I figure any powder faster than TG, or just TG for burning too hot for lead?

    If I want to shoot both jacketed and lead, then I should either stick with one or the other, or thoroughly clean between either?

    Steve
     
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    SJ 40 Deplorable,Clinger

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    My choice of fast powders for 45 ACP is along the lines of WST or 700 X although the WST meters better than 700 X. SJ 40
     
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    Are you talking about with use of only lead?

    Steve
     
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    Yes,90% of what I reload and shoot is plain grease groove lead bullets. SJ 40