Mas, Thanks for taking the time to answer out questions, I'm sure you sigh sometimes. My question is this, would the average .223 round, hollow point, soft point, whatever be reliable for my safety. Let me first say that I don't want to get hit with one, and neither does anyone else, but I ca't see a there being ahuge debate on the topic if there isn't something to it. Having talked with GIs comming back from the middle east and hearing of stories of emptying half a magazine into an assailant (in ball ammo) to bring them down, I don't know how it will work for me. My biggest thought, is that if I would't use a .223 when hunting for anything larger than an unsuspecting coyote, how reliable is it going to be on someone who's full up on drugs, alcohol and adrenaline through clothing. People who shoot deer with the .223 regardless of load, very often end up tracking, and that was without the pre-shot adrenaline. I hear good things about other carbine cartridges like the 6.8 SPC and the like, but there are too many stories about the .223/5.56 failures for me to ignore. Though they probably exist, I haven't heard a single story about a well or even semi-well placed .308 or .30-06 round not taking down a target. Mas, I'm lost and having internal battles. Please help me figure out where to stand. Thanks again.