First of all I'll start off that its my weekend and I have been drinking. I work nights so I have to stay on schedule, and stay up late. T.V. video games and drinking usually helps me stay up. Anywho, I bought a Remington 525 value pack last weekend at a LGS. It was on a shelf behind a counter so I didn't handle it until I got out of the store. Once in the car I noticed that the box was a little beat up and taped closed. So tonight I was bored and decided to count how many were actually in the box. Only 513. ugh... I'm slightly perturbed that I was shorted 12 rounds ($3.84 according to gunbot.net's cheapest round) but with the scarcity in todays market I think it's warranted. Not really going anywhere with this but I'm not sure if it was due to the beat up box, or Remington's counting. Anyone ever had the time to count out a 525 value pack?