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I do computer I.T. In metro Atlanta, GA

A large number of my clients that voted for Trump in 2016 are voting for Biden in 2020 AND many that are doing this do not support Biden, they just can’t take 4 more years of Trump.

These are middle to upper class suburban voters, mostly caucasian. I do have some die hard Trumpers though. It’s going to be a tight race in Georgia.

I am not going to call into question your honesty like others have done. I don’t know you. I will say that the clients you speak of, are dumber than a box of hammers. That is all.
 

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I'm sure al of these upper class folks will just be thrilled when socialism takes over and they're now neighbors with the pot smoking dropout who delivered their pizza.
There will always be some higher up on the socioeconomic ladder than others.

Overall, intelligence and drive is rewarded over sloth and laziness. It has been throughout history.
 

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The only problem with the "less whites theory" is that the macho Central Americans and black men like a strong man like Trump, especially here in Texas. Biden appears demented and weak compared to Trump and Jose isn't going to vote for that.

Central Americans grow up in the Padrone system. The powerful man takes care of the village.
 

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The only problem with the "less whites theory" is that the macho Central Americans and black men like a strong man like Trump, especially here in Texas. Biden appears demented and weak compared to Trump and Jose isn't going to vote for that.
Interesting take.
Did you read the links I provided?
Do you have insight beyond that data?
 

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Sounds made up.
I agree and believe the exact opposite is true. People I associate with that were democrats are voting for Trump. Strangers I've talked to; same. I suppose I repel liberals.:cowboy:
 

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There will always be people higher up on the socioeconomic ladder than others.

Intelligence and drive will win over sloth and laziness. It has throughout history.
So, you've lived in a socialist country? What you describe is the essence of capitalism.
The problem here is, everyone is brainwashed to think they are among the chosen few. It usually takes a few years to find out they are not.
 

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Trump won the college educated vote in 2016. CNN was left speechless. Hillary literally hit the roof.
The question and the links were specific to the demographics of Trump supporters. Surely there is no doubt he won the electoral college 4 years ago.
 

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There will always be some higher up on the socioeconomic ladder than others.

Overall, intelligence and drive is rewarded over sloth and laziness. It has been throughout history.
Oh, and, who said pizza boy is "slth and lazy"? He might just be the hardest working person in the company. Now, his hard work will get him the $$$ that the rest of the drones are making. More correctly, under socialism, they will make the same as he. Then, one day, everyone realizes that no matter how hard you work, everyone gets paid the same. Then, you need 5 people to do the work of 3.... Kinda like a union shop.
 

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There will always be some higher up on the socioeconomic ladder than others.

Overall, intelligence and drive is rewarded over sloth and laziness. It has been throughout history.
Oooo... we can have free college too. Well, at least until the money runs out.
Won't all of those college grads be just dandy at flipping burgers because their chosen fields are inundated with qualified applicants? At least they'll be consoled by the fact that their income is pretty much on par with those who get what few jobs are available in their profession.
 

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So, you've lived in a socialist country? What you describe is the essence of capitalism.
The problem here is, everyone is brainwashed to think they are among the chosen few. It usually takes a few years to find out they are not.
I would think one needs to look no further than China or Russia to see socioeconomic strata. A burgeoning middle and upper class.

The countries with limited socioeconomic classes are third world countries without effective governments. Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Bangladesh, etc. The population are all equally poor.
 

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Oooo... we can have free college too. Well, at least until the money runs out.
Won't all of those college grads be just dandy at flipping burgers because their chosen fields are inundated with qualified applicants? At least they'll be consoled by the fact that their income is pretty much on par with those who get what few jobs are available in their profession.
To be clear, I stated those with "intelligence" not "education".
 

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Twitter, his public comments, many are Pro Gun AND Pro Choice, our relations with NATO partners, the C.L.O.U.D Act, pushing a Supreme Court nomination so close to an election.

These voters stress they want a moderate President and are tired of extreme politics.
Good for you for asking. When I do this with Leftists, I try to help them see the difference between not liking what our President actually said vs what the MSM reports that he said or, more importantly, what the MSM reports that he meant. There is a big, big difference and when the discussion is honest they end up admitting that they are reacting to the MSM rhetoric, not reality.

It is very sad to see that the propaganda arm of the democrat party has had success. One party is supposed to say X, the other Y, and the media is supposed to have the role of helping the public differentiate fact from fiction. Now the MSM itself is the disseminator of fiction.
 

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So they voted for Trump in 2016 because they hated Hilary more? Or they are caving to the left's tantrum and molatov cocktail throwing?
 

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I would think one needs to look no further than China or Russia to see socioeconomic strata. A burgeoning middle and upper class.

The countries with limited socioeconomic classes are third world countries without effective governments. Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Bangladesh, etc. The population are all equally poor.
Have you ever been to Russia? Particularly before the fall of the USSR (30+ years ago), but still today in their "new" socioeconomic existence?
 

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I have no idea who the OP is, or if he's being truthful. His anecdotes track with the polling #s in GA, however.

Yes, I realize polling data is imperfect, but it's the best metric we have until election day.
 

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Have you ever been to Russia? Particularly before the fall of the USSR (30+ years ago), but still today in their "new" socioeconomic existence?
Are you denying the birth and existence of a middle and upper class in Russia? I noticed you didn't mention China.
 

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Nope. Their "middle and upper class" has a vastly different standard of living than say the US, UK, Canada, Germany, Switzerland...I'm sure you get my drift. I've never been to China, so I can't comment from first hand experience like I can about Russia. I've worked there and with their "educated class," but not party types, extensively over the last 33 years. You don't want to give up you middle class lifestyle, or above, for what they call middle class.
 
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