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200 grain bullets???

Discussion in 'The .40 S&W Club' started by JBull, Aug 2, 2003.

  1. JBull

    JBull

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    Does anybody load 200 grain bullets in their .40? If so, what kind of loads and velocities are you getting? Generally speaking, can it be done safely?

    Thanks
     
  2. tjpet

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    Berry's 200 grn. RS w/3.4 grns. WST - Soft, accurate, clean burning IDPA/Minor load. A bit over 800 fps.

    Berry's 200 grn. RS w/8.5 grns. AA#7 - Bowling pin/Major load. Accurate and hard hitting. A chronoed 960+ fps from a 4.5" barrel.

    As I'm still around after a few thousand reloads it must be a safe practice.
     

  3. fireslayer23

    fireslayer23 Roadwhore

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    I'm loading Berry's 200gr RS with 4.2gr of W231 at a 1.220 for my SV, looks like a 10mm round but the Schuemann AET barrels are chambered long, and getting about 650fps.
     
  4. JBull

    JBull

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    Thanks for the info. What pistol/barrel are you shooting these from? I plan on loading these for my G35 with a KKM barrel.
     
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    I regularly use three .40's:

    Glock 22
    Glock 23
    Browning HP

    Except for sights, trigger jobs, and both Glocks having had frame alterations the guns are stock.
     
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    WestCost TotalMetalJacket (TMJ) like speer lawman bullet - rounded flatpoint 200 grn in mixed cases sized w/ Lee U die & primed w/ small rifle primers to 1.160" OAL over V V N320 powder - clocking 830FPS out of a Steyr M40 for USPSA/IPSC Major Power Factor.

    By the way - the Speer reloading manual explains that they do not list any reloading data for the 200s and they don't recomend shooting them in .40. Go look it up. As Clark would say - It is the individual's responsibility to have a good time.
     
  7. duncan

    duncan Lifetime Member Millennium Member

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    Yup and accurate too.

    See below - Titegroup steel plates loads - nice. Minimal recoil and they fall!
     
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    Ok, but how much N320? I am going from 180 West Coast Bullet (X-Treme Bullet) to 200 grn (got a good deal). I need to know how much powder you have been using to get a lower velocity--say around 750 to 700 fps. I just want them for very light steel loads.

    Any help is appreciated...
    Thanks!
     
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    Did I see that Speer makes a 200gr. Gold Dot?
     
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    I was browsing double taps website and it seemed like the 200gr rounds get about the same ft/lbs as a 9mm. What are the benefits?
     
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    Sight Feeble Minded

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    Yes sir , I do see it on thier web site.
     
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    The .40 does pretty good with 200gr bullets. Most shoot them mild, I tend to favor them a little spicier. It's possible to get 200 grainers over 600 ft-lbs.
     
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    Thus the problem. Soft steel loads using 200 grains are fine. The reason is one of physics for both soft and hot 200 grains .40 loads.

    The secondary recoil impulse on a soft 200 grain .40 load makes the gun cycle recoil less than a same energy level 9mm. This means you can shoot it faster. For major loads, you will notice all of the top shooters at one point tried 200 grains and went back to 180s for a variety of reasons. The length of the 200 grain slug leaves little to no room for error in case dimensions and powder charge. Even in longer loaded rounds used in 1911/2011s, the velocity variation afftected PFs and accuracy enough that the 180s were a better option. There are no published loads for 200 grain slugs with 600 ft-lbs. Especially out of a Glock, that is a dangerous load. SDGlock23's "possbile" is on a par with it's possible to jump out of a moving car and not get hurt.
     
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    Double tap is able to run their 200 grain loads at 1000 or more. I have been testing their 200 grain FMJ in my Glock 40. They are a good choice if you are looking for deep penetration. They cut right spruce logs with ease.
     
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    I believe so.
     
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    7grs 800x and 200gr XTP's (1.130") average more or less right at 1100 fps out of my G22. 1095 fps avg, which is 532 ft-lbs. Cases look fine, primers aren't flattened. It spits the brass pretty well and has healthy recoil. Slip it into a 6" barrel and you can just break 600 ft-lbs. Not a listed load, but I've never had an issue with it.
     
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    nolt DONT PANIC!

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    anyone seen any pressure data on these loads? or know what powder they are using?
     
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    Not sure but they recoil about the same as the Speer 180 grain Lawman.
     
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    nolt DONT PANIC!

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    im more concerned about load pressures than recoil. you know... safety and crap.

    Mike at doubletap actually advised me that all of theirs were under 32800psi, which is about where Lawman rounds are.
     
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    vikingsoftpaw DEPLORABLE ME!

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    I worked up a load using Hornady 200 grain XTP/HP and 9.0 grain of AA9 for a ruger PC-40 carbine. They work really well in my S&W too. Accurate lists them at 860 fps out of a 4" test barrel, 35,000psi.
     
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