Well, I finally bit the bullet and plopped down the plastic for the following: Canon 20D w/ 17-85mm EF-IS lens 580EX flash 4 Gb Sandisk card BG-E2 vertical handgrip an extra battery UV and circular polarizer filters and a couple of other, misc. items Now the waiting!!! I should have everything by Wednesday or Thursday. Then the fun starts. I'm guessing the first night will be spent just trying to read through the manuals. I have a bad feeling that I will be buying the 10-22mm lens before long. I currently have the 420EX flash for a Elan 7E, so it'll be interesting to play with the remote flash capabilities of the 580 / 420 combo. Any suggestions on what to practice on?