[isuzu]

Between the two, I'd go for the .38 Super. Try and get the ballistics of the .38 Super and you'll be surprised.

http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/38Super.asp

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by blueeagle
as the saying goes, " on the ground with one round (cal .45)."

Bullet placement plays a big factor here. A friend of mine who was doing payroll in his farm in the late 80's shot a BG who was out to kill him with a Super .38 loaded with 124 gr Silvertips. One shot to the chest and the guy just stiffened and dropped according to him. Distance was about 15 feet.

The police had to verify a couple of times to him if he really used a .38 Super. The exit wound was almost the size of a child's fist.

The ballistics of the two are about the same (in ft lbs). 9mm was added since it is also a popular round in the Philippines:

a) American Eagle ammo FMJ

Muzzle 25 yds 50 yds

.38 Super 416 377 346

.45 ACP 404 389 374

9mm 124 gr 364 330 303

Sorry, tried to edit it in table form, but to no avail.

One thing that we should consider is that the license for a .38 Super is cheaper than the license of a .45 ACP.

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by Dok
medyo out of topic, i just don't want to start a new thread.

has anyone have a compact (officer's).45 1911? how's the recoil? i have glock 30 once and it has the same barrel length and i find the recoil manageable but i think it's because of the polymer frame and dual captive recoil spring.

Got to try my friend's Officer's .45. Masakit sa kamay. The Commander is a whole lot better.

 

[isuzu]

Cor-Bon DPX .38 Super. Impressive at 506 ft lbs energy.

https://www.dakotaammo.net/shop/pro...d=268&osCsid=cf9578e7faf560a6125d8a36eab67a8a

OT:

.30 Carbine DPX at 911 ft lbs.

https://www.dakotaammo.net/shop/pro...d=252&osCsid=cf9578e7faf560a6125d8a36eab67a8a

That should give M1/M2 carbine users another ammo to feed their carbines.

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by tigra
.38 super ako:thumbsup:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Corbon 38 Super Ammo Tests.htm

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by tigra
Thanks, sir isuzu!:cheers:

You're welcome! I like the write up. It's just factual. There are also other articles with guns and other ammo in that link. They are very informative.

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by jasonub
how about a grizzly bear with 1 shot?

here are some links

http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=70270

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~gnappi/10mmhunt.htm


but if you choose the 10, bullets are not that easy to come by. you can reload though. you only need 1 shot on a man btw:supergrin:

The FBI tried using the 10mm but eventually settled for the .40. The 10mm's recoil is not for everybody. Increased grip size is also a disadvantage to agents with small hands. They got a reduced load which is almost the same as a .40 S&W.

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by Poodle
.45 ACP. Last friday shooting kami ng kaibigan ko sa Armscor. Meron siyang SIG na 9 mm, G21 ang dala ko. Me nakita kaming wounded na palaka na palaboy laboy sa range. Binaril niya ng 9 mm, sapul sa likod. Through and through. Tumalon-talon pa nang matagal-tagal ang palaka. Siguro pag tao yun uwi muna bahay, kuha itak para itakin kami. Kung ayaw niyo maniwala tanong niyo si Rommel, yung homeboy dun. Binaril ko ng .45, di tinamaan. Binaril ko ulit, di na naman tinamaan. Binaril ko pa ulit, di na naman tinamaan. Binaril ko na naman, di na naman tinamaan. Tumalon-talon pa. Binaril ko nang isa pa, tumihaya na ang palaka. Nilapitan ko, parang walang dagdag na tama pero tumalsik eh.

Moral of the story: Tunog pa lang ng .45 nakakatakot na, yung near miss ng .45 ay nakakamatay.

Mag .45 ka na lang siguro Sir.

There's your answer. A direct hit with a 9mm is better than a couple of misses with a .45.

Kaso lang, namatay yata sa nerbyos and palaka.:supergrin:

 

[isuzu]

Originally posted by New_comer
I really feel that my eardrums are going to rupture with the sound of a 38 super going off. It's supersonic, and it needs to be so as to be right up there in Power Factor with the 45 as a major IPSC round. Without ear protection, I believe using it will induce flinching, and deafness , which would be bad in the long term.

I'll have to recommend the 45acp. Not as noisy, and with the better ammo choices, is right at the top of the OSS (one shot stop) food chain.

Just my 2 centavos...

As I've mentioned in my previous post about a friend who got involved in a gunfight using a .38 Super, I asked him if he heard gunfire in the course of the encounter.

He said "I didn't hear a thing. Things happened too fast."

But if you're at a range, eye and ear protection is a must and the difference in sound signature between a .45 and a .38 Super would hardly be noticed.