Well too the guys that posted all the options on my question on a gun that would afford me a high thumb grip like you can use on a 1911 and not interrupt slide lock operations I say thanks. I made my decision and for my Nighthawk trade (I can only imagine the **** storm from custom 1911 guys right now, but in ALL honesty that Nighthawk performed just as well as my TRP Operator, the only difference is Nighthawk costs more...) I bought 3 HK's. He only had one in stock of coarse, the more popular carry sized Hk P30. I decided to grab her anyway, since some days on my job I need a smaller framed gun for the non suit and tie contracts. Chambered 9x19 I had her out to the range this morning. Burned 300 rounds through it, she shoots like a dream, you can get a super high thumb grip and the nice low bore axis, I can feel the difference between it and higher bore axis guns even in 9x19mm. On order I have a p30L .40 cal and an HK45. Thanks for all the input and suggestions guys. I ordered the other two with the thumb safeties as well.