155 gr Silvertip

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  1. newglocker10mm

    newglocker10mm Texas Born & Bred

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    Has anyone used the 155 grain Silvertip 40 S&W? I saw some advertised at 1200 fps and I believe 500 ft/lbs of ME. To me that's impressive. My Sigs handle 40 pretty easily and I'm wondering about the recoil and "snap", which I've heard can be a problem but haven't experienced for myself. Currently I use 180 and 165 grain HST's but I like the old Silvertips. They've worked for me before in 45 ACP/185 grain.
     
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    Will Beararms Millennium Member

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    Do you not read the posts from the GlockTalk Brain Trust???? The .40 S&W is a useless caliber and there is no such thing as stopping power. C’mon man!
     

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    Used 155gr Hornady TAP for a few years until switching to 165 hst. Saw no different in recoil from my g23,g27 and g35 gen3s.
     
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    imo, while nothing necessarily wrong with doing so, if they're still relying upon original design & old tech, probably more susceptible to fragmentation/less penetration.
     
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    Nothing wrong with the HST and they will be less expensive.

    And yes, the "stopping power" of duty caliber handguns is quite bad, regardless of bullet or caliber.
     
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    Beat me to it!
     
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    I still have a couple of boxes of these and keep a G23 loaded with them. I believe the Border Patrol used this round for a number of years. ST a probably not one of the best loads at this time but they are still a capable round.
     
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    I also learned here on GT that any .40 handgun is worthless crap that one can't even give away!
     
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    I doubt you would feel the difference in a 155gr 1300fps + underwood load and a slow 180gr hst , at least I can't . I carried a 40sw since '91 and used mostly 150gr & 155gr bullets and bought ammo from underwood since they been loaded by them but Georgia arms is another good small ammo company but the first was corbon with a 150gr bullet .. Today with improvements in bullet design HST and Ranger t series heavier 165 and 180 bullets they work very well even at slower velocity's .

    I carried a couple 9mm or 45 acp for a few years but mostly 40sw starting with a firestar M40 for 13 years then carried a tp40 kahr and a sig p320c for a total of 13 years using underwood or georgia arms hot 1300fps + 155gr ammo and taken several deer with it that showed up under my climber stand and used my pistol to take them both had top to bottom pass thru shots and little extra movement after being shoot . I traded off a gluck19 to a family member form a m&p 42.5 40sw a few months back and now carry it but do to not as tight chambers I running mild 165gr hst or 180gr hst in it .

    Bottom line is Bullet placement is still key so try some and you decide .
     
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    Another vote for the HST. Better bullet tech.
    SilverTips were the thing back in the revolver days.
     
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    Ammo testing, although it was in ballistic gel, didn't show any fragmentation with this particular loading but the test was with a glock 23, barrel length comparable to my P229. To me, Silvertip rounds are like 9BPLE in that it might be "old school", it will still get the job done. And the price I found these at is a little less than my normal carry load, HST 180's. 40 S&W is far from dead, despite what the "enlightened" might say. It is still the most carried/issued round for LE types in the US. But what do I know, I carry a Sig!!
     
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    I don't know for a fact, but Winchester may have changed the bullet tech in these. The actual bullet used to have five serrations and the "new" (?) ones now have six serrations.
     
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    Looked to have very good penetration and expansion.
     
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    Silver tips have been around a long time with a good record. I wouldn't hesitate to use them.

    We all know were splitting hairs with a lot of these bullets anyway. We should be far more concerned with placement since the morons elected into office, put there by the morons who vote, have pretty much decided that since people fall down after one shot like they do in movies should limit all of us to 10 round magazines.

    Or better yet, one shot black powder guns.
     
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    Truth be told, I carry Silvertips of the 175gr variety most often in my G29. Based on what things look like after I shoot them, I'd not like to be shot with it. Silvertips going fast will kill stuff good and dead, no doubt in my mind at least.
     
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    I would feel perfectly comfortable with those 155 ST bullets in a .40.

    They still work. Quite well.
     
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    Back in the early to mid 90's, the 155 ST and the 155 Federal JHP rounds were two of the top rated loads in 40 S&W. Our State Police carried the 155 grain Gold Dot for years and the couple shootings I recall during those years, the load was quite effective.
     
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    The earliest ones had an aluminum jacket which is why they called them Silvertips.

    They will work fine.
     
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