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Discussion in 'TOP GUNS *357 Sig* Club' started by clarkstoncz, Jun 5, 2011.
Anyone carrying 147s these days?
Been thinking about getting some for my hiking load.
I plan a nice soft 147gr target load for my sissy wife to shoot. As for carry, I stick to the 125gr...
I shot my first .357 SIG the other day.
Wow. what a thrill.
Only WWB but gave me the 10mm rush without the 10mm hand smacking recoil.
I can see why many depts are going to it.Interesting to know the 147s will have less recoil than the very street( and highway) proven 125 grain loads.
It's fun the shoot, that's for sure!
Anyone else shooting 147s?
Every once in a while, I load up a batch of 147 HPXTP, using blue dot. Most accurate load ever shot in my G32C at 25 yards. SHot a little high but an insanely small group. I assume they shot high because of the heavier bullet, more recoil....as I was at abou 85% of max load with blue dot. I have no reason to use the heavier bullets on a routine basis. The 124s and 115's perform well. Dont generally spend couple extra bucks when I purchase bullets for the 147's. I gravitate towards loads with higher velocities
I also was thinking about loading up some 147 grain bullets and wanted to try the Speer 147 Grain Gold Dot (GD) bullets since my 125 Grain SIG Gold Dot Hollow Points worked so well. When I compared the 147 grain GD bullets with the 147 Grain GDs, it appeared to me as if the ogive on the 147 grain bullets may be a bit long to keep the Overall Length (OAL) of the loaded cartridge within industry standards. If I loaded them to the maximum Cartridge Overall Length of 1.140", it appears that part of the ogive is insice the case, causing there to be less gripping surface of the neck to the bullet. These 125 grain GD bullets were designed specifically for the 357 SIG, but I think the 147 grain GD bullets were designed for the 9mm Parabellum, which allows for a longer ogive.
Has anyone tried loading the Speer 147 Grain Gold Dot bullets in 357 SIG? If so, how did it work? What OAL did you use? Did you have any problems with bullet setback?
That could be the reason that Double Tap doesn't load the 125 gr. TAC-XP.
Probably too long of a bullet to get the desired powder capacity/velocity.
I'm carrying the 115 TAC-XP .357 SIG in my smaller Glocks, the 125 JHP for my G31.
I really think that most any .357 SIG hollow point on the market is suitable for self defense.
I'm looking forward to playing around with the cartridge and the learing more about 147s so keep the updates coming.
I had a tough time getting the dies adjusted for the 147's
The Barnes TAC-XP 125...on the right...
...works VERY well in the 357SIG; one simply has to choose the correct powder that will generate high velocity with acceptable pressure* and LOW muzzleflash. The one I found is HS-6. It generates over 1350FPS (at 10') from my stock-barreled 31, VERY-low MF...
...and perfectly expanded bullets.
* The specific problem is that most of the correct-burning-rate powders are too bulky.
I used HS-6 in 10mm back when I did reload.
Thanks for the info and I look forward to more of your work.
What are the other two bullets in the pic? If I had to guess Id say the one on the left was a remington golden saber, but I really dont know, mayne it is a montana gold or a winchester hollowpoint, Im pretty confused about that one, but the center bullet Im pretty sure is a hornady xtp...
Yes on the XTP124 in the center. The LH bullet is indeed a Montana Gold 124 that I can no longer find.
I'm now using, for practice and destroying water-filled plastic jugs... ...a rounder-profile 125HP from Rocky Mntn...
...and that's the TAC-XP with it.
Here's another comparison pic...
...with the XTP124 left, 124MG center, and 125TAC-XP right. The pattern on the XP's nose is from the Lee bullet-seating plug (and, from the way it looks, certainly more than one seating and probably over too-bulky a powder charge); I've yet to send a bullet to Lee to get a custom seating plug.