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13 Rd. Mags. for G23 will ony take nine. Why?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Lester R. Britton, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. Lester R. Britton

    Lester R. Britton

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    I have a Glock 23 that came with two magazines. I have since then purchased three more mags. My problem is that they are all 13 round capacities but I can only get, at best, nine in any of them. What's the secret to getting 13 rounds in them? Could they possibly be blocked for only 10 rounds? The first two mags. that came with the 23 are now 3 years old.
     
  2. Jon_R

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    Does the back of the mags have 13 holes for showing how many are in it or just 10 holes?

    Are you using a tool to load the magazines or just your thumb?
     

  3. Lester R. Britton

    Lester R. Britton

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    All of the mags. show 13 round capacity and I am using the loading tool that came with G23.
     
  4. SCC

    SCC just me

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    do you have the glock tool ?
     
  5. Lester R. Britton

    Lester R. Britton

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    I have the tool that covers the mags that enable me to load them other than that I don't know what "tool" you mean.
     
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    Hi:
    Strip the magazines and observe if there is a "Block".
    Maybe you have "Clinton" magazines.
    Jimmy
     
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    Perhaps Wheaties for breakfast will help.
     
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    Quiet Casino Goon

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    FYI.
    Glock 10 round magazines do not use a "block" to reduce to limit the capacity to 10 rounds, they use internal rails that make the magazines into single stacked magazines with a 10 round capacity.
     
  12. Lester R. Britton

    Lester R. Britton

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    Thanks everyone. I'll try all of them. I'll even switch from Cheerios to Wheaties if that'll help.
     
  13. voyager4520

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    The springs will be strong when new, the best way to "wear them in" is to go shooting with those mags. It's possible that the springs are just very strong at the moment. I would let them sit with 8 or 9 rounds for a while(maybe a week or two), or go shooting with them. If they function at the range and you are later able to load more rounds, they're probably fine. When using the magazine loading tool that came with your Glock, use your finger to push the front of the round down at the same time the tool is pushing the rear of the round down. Then use the tool to hold the round down while you use your other hand to load another round.

    They should still fit more than 9 or 10 rounds though. If they don't function correctly at the range or you cannot fit more rounds in the future, the magazine might not have been assembled correctly. When looking at the bottom of the magazine(baseplate), the hole in that plate, do you see a plastic peg sticking through that hole in the baseplate, the peg sticking through the hole and sitting flush with the baseplate? If not, the extra plate that's inside(the one with the plastic peg on it) is not positioned correctly and could be blocking the follower from going down as far as it should.

    It's also possible that the bottom of the spring is sitting on the lip of the internal plate instead of in the cavity in the center of it, which might cause the follower not to go down all the way.

    Or it could be that the rounds weren't loaded right and some may be toward the front of the magazine, while others are toward the rear, which could jam up in such a way that you wouldn't be able to load more rounds. Try loading them the way I described in the first paragraph and do your best to keep all rounds to the rear of the magazine body while you're loading. When pushing the top round down to load another each time, try to keep the top round level instead of tilting forward or back, if they tilt significantly while you load them, this could also cause them to jam up in the magazine body.

    Edit: Magazine disassembly video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRquLIpolc (at 40 seconds you'll see what the bottom of the magazine should look like if it's assembled correctly, with the peg sticking through the hole in the baseplate)

    My guess would be either the springs are really strong or you're loading the rounds in such a way that allows them and the follower to tilt back and forth greatly while being loaded.

    Edit 2: After you've used these magazines a bit at the range, you'll notice the fronts of the followers will develop scratches where the front of the casing of each cartridge is scratching up the follower. It's normal, if it causes problems you can lightly sand away the scratches in the followers.
     
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    This was my first guess. I've helped many folks who did not reassemble their mags properly and the plate was the problem.
     
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    This could be the issue. I recently went through fits with 3 brand new factory .357 SiG 10 rd mags for my G32 that I could only get 6 or, at most under extreme effort, 7 rounds in. I've been shooting for over 35 years and I'm no novice to single or double stack mags - got my first Gen 2 G23 in 1991. Anyway, I pushed and shoved, unloaded and reloaded multiple times, pulled them apart and checked springs and followers vs 3 other 10 rounders that easily took 10 rounds - everything was the same :dunno:.

    Thats when I looked INSIDE the mags :shocked:. The 'rails' inside the mags were WAY more intrusive into the mag interior on the ones that would only take 6 or 7 than on the ones that would easily take 10 :faint:. WTF?! Jacked up from the factory was all I could figure.

    (Edit: see Butch's excellent pictures below; those 'bumps' are where the mags I had were messed up - they were too big so they wouldn't take the full 10 rds - maybe your mags have bumps and shouldn't)
     
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    My brand new G23 13 round mags take all 13 pretty easy:whistling:
     
  17. ScrappyDoo

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    My brand new G23 mags were real difficult to get loaded all the way right away too...

    I think I loaded like 9-10 and was frustrated and let them sit there for a half hour while I loaded Glock Talk for the first time and then in an hour took another crack at them and got to 12... waited another hour and got the 13th in ... after letting them sit fully loaded at 13 for a few days they're increasingly easy..
     
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    mine all work right but they are 2nd gens and ones a pre ban 13 rounder.
     
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