[emore]

I posted yesterday that I had passed on what I really wanted, a G20SF. Well, I'm planning to get it today. What I intend to use it for mainly is bowling pin competition. As you know, if you can't follow up pretty quick-like in that type of competition, you're sunk. What I need to know is how quickly can follow-up shots be taken by your average out-of-shape old phart? I have no doubt that it would take the pins off the table, but if I can only get two down while my opponent takes all five with a 45 ACP, I'm wasting a lot of money and time. I found some Federal HST JHP at Academy for only $33.00 a box! I think I might be shooting Atlanta Arms reloads at the LGS for awhile at that rate.
Anyway, any input on the difficulty (or ease) of follow-up shots?

 

[TH237]

The 10mm isn't like shooting a 44 mag. The follow up shot won't take any longer than a 45 or a 40 for that matter, depending on your size and strength. And as far as ammo...here is a link I think you will find useful.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo-10mm

 

[ronin.45]

TH237 is right. It's not going to slow you down enough to matter. If you grip it right and transition during recoil you will be good to go.

 

[Chronos]

I would say it does depend a bit on the load. The ".40+p"-level loads will be really soft in the G20 -- below .45acp level. The really hot stuff will require a bit more attention, if you're really pushing for speed. The nice thing is that there's a whole spectrum available -- you can easily find where your performance is optimal for pins or whatever.

 

[Texcowboy]

If you have never fired a 10mm I think you will be surprised that the recoil is not akin to a 44 mag. To me it is just a little more than 45acp, depending on the load of course. But even with the Buffalo Bore ammo it is still manageable. Oh, and I am an old 'phart' also.

 

[PhotoFeller]

I'm curious to know why moving up to 10mm from .40 or .45 is an advantage for competition. If it ain't broke, why change it?

I, too, am extremely curious/interested in the 10mm. For me it is a caliber I've never tried and the extra horsepower for a woods carry gun is tempting. Recoil and ammo availability are holding me back. I'm going to rent one at the range soon for a trial run, and I'll buy a box of high power ammo if they have it in stock.

 

[crsuribe]

Are you allowed to use your own handloads? If so, work up (or down) a recipe that is accurate and hard hitting enough that it will reliably knock them down while producing the least amount of recoil.

With soft loads, my G.20 kicks less than a regular .40S&W load

 

[ModGlock17]

It gets much better if you do some mods, like a longer 6" barrel and/or recoil spring.

Mine is very sweet.
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[arushus]

Just FYI....cheaperthandirt.com has better prices on 10mm ammo than ammunitiontogo does...

 

[Darkangel1846]

With standard low powered factory loads I can get the trigger reset for follow up shots very quickly. You may just need practice on that trigger reset, as the recoil of the standard 10mm is not much different then the .45 ACP in a SA. The revolvers are somewhat barrel heaver and a bit faster recovery

 

[rcd567]

Same. I shoot both, and might accidently fall into that old fart catagory too.

Reload, it's the only way to shoot the 10.:supergrin:

 

[SARDG]

emore- I used to shoot pins indoors several years ago but now belong to a club and shoot pins outdoors. Began outdoors with a G21, then almost immediately a G24. Left the house this Sunday for pins and forgot my G24 (duh) but had my G30 and plenty of GSSF ammo. Got my personal best ever on centerfire with my G30 - better than either the 21 or 24.

I have a 29 OD that I bought several months ago and never shot, but expect to get a 20SF soon. I just wonder how much better I could do - that G30 never lets me down.

Since pin 'rules' vary greatly, can you tell me your setup? We shoot 4 tiered tables of 5 pins, at 10 yds, and throw out the high scoring table and then average the remaining three table times. We shoot 3 guns (rimfire, centerfire, revolver) and do that routine for each gun. We have stock and open divsions for each gun type.

My stock centerfire time was 7.73 seconds using the above scoring scheme and the G30. I'm definately trying the 20SF when I get it, but not certain I can do any better than I did with the G30.

 

[21Carrier]

I'm curious to know why moving up to 10mm from .40 or .45 is an advantage for competition. If it ain't broke, why change it?

I, too, am extremely curious/interested in the 10mm. For me it is a caliber I've never tried and the extra horsepower for a woods carry gun is tempting. Recoil and ammo availability are holding me back. I'm going to rent one at the range soon for a trial run, and I'll buy a box of high power ammo if they have it in stock.

Ammo availability is a somewhat legitimate concern. Recoil, however, is not. That's myth. It's stiff with full-bore rounds, but nothing like you think. It's nowhere near as bad as a .357Magnum revolver. Also, the ammo situation is not that bad. Once you buy the gun, you will be forced to do the research and you will find plenty of good sources for cheap ammo. Or, you will finally get into reloading. In that case, everything will be wonderful.

 

[emore]

emore- I used to shoot pins indoors several years ago but now belong to a club and shoot pins outdoors. Began outdoors with a G21, then almost immediately a G24. Left the house this Sunday for pins and forgot my G24 (duh) but had my G30 and plenty of GSSF ammo. Got my personal best ever on centerfire with my G30 - better than either the 21 or 24.

That's good to know. At least YOU can do it.

I have a 29 OD that I bought several months ago and never shot, but expect to get a 20SF soon. I just wonder how much better I could do - that G30 never lets me down.

Mine is an SF, too. I have smallish hands although my grip measures pretty strongly.

Since pin 'rules' vary greatly, can you tell me your setup? We shoot 4 tiered tables of 5 pins, at 10 yds, and throw out the high scoring table and then average the remaining three table times. We shoot 3 guns (rimfire, centerfire, revolver) and do that routine for each gun. We have stock and open divsions for each gun type.

That setup would blow our collective minds. The setup is two 4' X 8' plywood sheets set on sawhorses. Five pins on each table. The first out of the two shooters to clear the table advances while the loser gets one down and has one to go until they are out of the shooting.
Rules? We don't got no steenking rules!



My stock centerfire time was 7.73 seconds using the above scoring scheme and the G30. I'm definately trying the 20SF when I get it, but not certain I can do any better than I did with the G30.

That time is a heckuva benchmark to try to beat. And all with a G30.
You go, gurl!

 

[SARDG]

...Rules? We don't got no steenking rules!

Seems no two places shoot pins alike... And we wonder why our matches take so long to get through!?!

That time is a heckuva benchmark to try to beat. And all with a G30.
You go, gurl!

I almost don't understand that kind of time myself (from me), but that was only good enough for 2nd place. One of our range ROs beat me with a stock G35.

k :courtsie: