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Discussion in 'Through-the-Lens Club' started by noway, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. noway

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    Anybody seen any digital camera for fast action that provides a shutter speed of over 1/4000-1/8000 of a second?
     
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    Tons. Canon 30D - 1/8000, 400D (XTi) - 1/4000, Nikon D80 - 1/4000, Nikon D2X - 1/8000, Olympus E-400 - 1/4000, Pentax K10D - 1/4000, Pentax K100D/K110D - 1/4000, and I am sure some others I have missed. I guess the short answer could be - just about every DSLR.
     

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    Find a good used EOS 1D, not the Mark II. It goes to 1/16000, 8 fps advance rate and can be found for around 1000. The 4.1 Mpix is plenty for anything but huge enlargements. I'm in the process of finding one for myself.
     
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    What would you use a 1/8000 shutter for? Hummingbirds? Bullets in flight?
     
  5. Glockdude1

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    With such high shutter speeds, you would have to have "fast glass" to get really nice action pics with it.

    Canon makes a 50mm 1.0, but it is NOT cheap!!!

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    +1, that kind of speed isnt really usable IMHO. 1/500-1/1000 will freeze almost anything with decent glass and good light.
     
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    Any pic needing a higher shutter speed than 1/1000 also needs lots of light to get a nice pic.

    :supergrin:
     
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    Guys it has nothing todo what any one of your suggestions.If you understand anything about shutter vrs aperture you will understand that with ultimate fast sensitive film that's 6400 iso and higher and in broad daylight, it's almost next to impossible to control DOF with a bigger aperture like that of F8 or smaller.


    My 3 current canons offer 1/4000 and 1/2000 shutter speed and I made a promise not to be limited in my next camera by a 1/2000-1/4000 shutter speed. I 'm planning on a 30D for my next digital camera pruchase and/or a 1-N for 35mm. I perfer all of my cameras to go down to 30secs ( or if possible 60secs before BULB ) or as fast as 1/2000 or faster.

    My bigger MF cameras offer 1/400 and 1/1000 irrc and it next to impossible to do anything with a fast film and maintain a low number aperture.


    Thought I would clear this confusion up ;)
     
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    I would love a camera that fast as I am a fan of dark, underexposed shots.

    [​IMG]
     
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    you did not mention film in your original post. even in iso 1600 mode on a dslr and plenty of light, there isnt any need for a shutter speed that fast. special high speed cameras that catch bullets in flight and such are a different animal altogether and i dont know a thing about them. in good light, i can catch spraying water, empty shell casings and such perfectly at iso 400 and 1/500. what are you going to photograph?
     
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    To catch a bullet in flight, a high speed shutter is not needed. A high speed flash is the secret. Those pics we all have seen on the covers of various gun magazines, are taken in total darkness.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    {what are you going to photograph?}

    outdoors items and with true B&W films. I'm using alot of 3200 films that has been pushed and have been plague with too much sharp during outdoors photography since the aperture is why to small ( higher numbers) than what I can get without dropping a ND to reduce the light by a stop or 2 which contradicts the usage of a high speed ( sensitive ) film to begin with.

    NOTE: Most of the time I'm shooting outdoor, but sometimes also shoots indoors without the bulkness of the flash which is why the films is pushed to begin with.

    A Shutter speed faster than 1/4000 could have been handy on more than one ocassion.
     
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    in an underlit scene, it's the flash that dertermines the exposure.
    A through-the-lens metering system will regulate the duration of the
    flash. "X" at f:8 "x/2 at f:5.6, and "X/4" at f:4 and so on.

    With a high iso, maximum acceptable aperature, a short distance away;
    the effective exposure could be 1/50,000 second.

    experiment, experiment, experiment
     
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    ditto ditto ditto but you still have to match the camera's flash sync speed. the 1/50K of a second is the flash duration or in some of the flashs on the market it's closer to 1/20-25K of a second.

    fwiw: Your not going to shoot a photo with a 1/8000 shutter and use a flash or at least on any of the cameras I've seen ;) You would most likely wouldn't even get one bit of flash light into the frame.

    At best with a dual curtain system you can get 1/250 but typically it 's 125-160 or even slower 1/60. A leaf shutter lens like that on my my RB67 can shoot 1/400 of a second and the mamiya7 for example can push 1/500 of a second. I think all of my canons are 1/125
     
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    correction, I went back alooked at a couple of my flash heads and the duration is even less more in the 1/2XXX range and it depends on if the head is dial at max or min power levels ( wattage ). No where close to 1/50K as posted earlier or my 1/20-25K posted info.

    I would also bet the onboard flash on most SLR would be much less also.
     
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    No, you open the lens fully with "B" and then trigger the flash by a remote trigger, like a sound.
     
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    It's not always a question of needing to shoot at 1/1000 or more. sometimes you're forced into it. ;)

    some of my grandnephew's baseball and football games took place with a bright sun directly overhead.:steamed: :steamed:

    In order to get the DOF I want, I've been forced to shoot 1/2000 or more.

    this pic was 1/2000 @ f3.5
     
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    Nice Pic. Having a lens you can shoot "wide open" also allows you to blur the background, making a better pic.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    {In order to get the DOF I want, I've been forced to shoot 1/2000 or more.
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    same here ;)
     
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    Inspired by MissKitty
    Canon XTi.
    1/4000
    Av 7.1
    Exposure compensation -1
    ISO speed 100
    Focal length 46mm
    Whie balance mode: flourescent
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