I bought a lightly used Glock 19, Gen 5, MOS with front serrations. S# BLTR***. Per glock the manufacturing date is May 19. Appears to have a couple hundred rounds or less based on wear (or lack there of).
I took it to the range, and shot it. Functioned fine on the first and second mag. Factory Winchester white box 115s in OEM mags that run fine in all my glocks. At the end of the stage, I went to clear the gun. I pulled back the slide and felt like it was stuck midway open and before ejecting the live round. like a stuck casing kind of feel. I tugged it hard and got it cleared. I shot another string and the same thing happened When I went to clear the gun. I played with it on the range and it appears to get to about 3/4 open and then you have to PULL to make it fully open the slide / breach to eject a live round. I can't think of a way to measure the pull but subjectively, it feels somewhere between "I don't want to be pulling my gun slide this hard" and "If I pull harder I could break this thing". I and a fairly talented gunsmith looked at it and compared it to my get 5 17 MOS and couldn't see any obvious bends or burs in the extractor, etc.
Doing a little internet surfing on here and on other shooting and tactical forums, it seems there are others with the same issue but I haven't found a solid explanation or remediation.
I called glock and the tech said they added a "new cut to the breach face that changes the way the extractor grabs the round in mid-2019 for the gen 5 guns" and that is the way it is supposed to function.
Hmmm...I have owned over a dozen glocks, from gen 1 thru 4, but just got my first 2 gen 5s. None of them, including the other gen 5, a 17 MOS, have this issue. I am a bit of a gorilla so I can yank the slide back, if needed, but there is no way that someone without fairly strong hands could run this gun safely and effectively.
I am not sure what to do. As of now, I plan to run some more rounds through it and see if it loosens up, but I bought this as a potential carry gun and this undermines my confidence in its function to the point that I am not sure I trust it.
So...what gives. Is Glock blowing smoke up my ass? Anyone else have this problem with gen 5s? Is there a fix
I have a gen 5 g19 with the breech face cut and I have noticed when unloading a live round it feels much different than my other Glocks. About two thirds of the way back with the slide there is a definite “catch”or resistance before the round is ejected. It is not a problem for me just different feeling. It kind of feels like a stronger ejection.
have done a field strip, clean and heavy lube (rem oil and grease on rails). Have not “stripped” and clean the slide, ie back plate off and all the parts out. I plan to do that and swap the extractor and springs (new OEM stock) while I have it apart once the parts arrive.
That's what I was thinking it sounds like a barrel/throat issue, does the round that gets stuck have any marks around the case near the bullet or on the bullet itself?
Either way as suggested above do the pluck test, Google it if your not sure.
So it slings empties like it’s supposed to? It’s only a loaded round you have trouble with? Are you gently pulling and hit the ledge or are you attempting to hand cycle with authority? Have you tried anyone else’s G5 19? If they only made the change for the G5 19 it is reasonable to assume the other G5’s wouldn’t have the issue.
It does eject empties fine. Only live rounds. Live rounds have the issue regardless of whether I cycle slow or fast. Only other gen 5 I have is my 17. It does not have this issue.
I disagree with the post above. I have shot pistols for nearly 30 years and never had to pull a slide this hard. Not on any Glock, including 10mm. No pistol.
This has become an issue for some people but believe me, it is NO issue whatsoever.
What Glock told you is correct, the small cut they put in the left side of the breechface causes it. When you pull the slide back with a chambered round, the rim catches on that cut, like it is supposed to, and doesn't let it fling out easily by hand retraction of the slide. And I doubt it will get easier over time. When you fire it, that little cut catches the rim on the empty and aids in flinging the empty case out very stoutly. That is why the cut is there, to assure positive ejection.
To make it easy, when you pull the slide back slowly, when it gets to where it doesn't want to move freely just push and pull the slide forward and back a little and let the round fall out the magwell (no mag in of course) You can forcibly eject by pulling the slide hard, but it will usually mark up the tip of the bullet.
I don’t see this cut or have this issue with my Gen 5 19, 17 or 19x. Though my 19 has short throat issue discussed elsewhere.
Is this cut in all Gen 5?
The thing that makes me laugh the most at glock is “glock perfection” if that were the case we wouldn’t see a new Gen every 18 months.
I like them but they have no soul!
On the guns with the breach face cut, it does take a little more to get a live round to eject. However, this is also what makes the gun eject spent rounds better. I'd put a period there and move on. The new guns eject much better, especially if using a lower power round.
It does
I disagree with the post above. I have shot pistols for nearly 30 years and never had to pull a slide this hard. Not on any Glock, including 10mm. No pistol.
Glock is blowing smoke...Yup, must be it. They like to laugh at all the silly calls they get
If it is shooting fine, and it is your gun, and you have the gorilla muscles to clear it it, what's the issue? It needs breaking in to wear all the mating surfaces and to weaken the recoil spring, then it will be nice for you..... Shoot 1000 rounds in a weekend, and then see if you notice it.
Every Glock is different. Owning 10 Glocks, does not mean that the #11 and #20 will will be the same.
I wonder if the ejector is longer on the new design so that it contacts the rear of the casing before the nose of the bullet fully clears the chamber. That would account for the difficulty, I imagine.
Alas, I don't have a gen 5 to look at so it's speculative on my part.
My Gen5 FS does this also. I didn’t think anything about it. Just takes a little more mustard on the sling shot. I didn’t notice the breach face cut until this forum tipped me off about it. My Gen4 26 rides in a smart carry at my non-permissive 40 hours. My Gen5 19 then goes into AIWB. I have over 900 rounds of 124 grain paper poppers and 300 or so rounds of various people poppers through it without a bobble. I trust it 100%. It likes 124 grain +P gold dots the best so far.
Its apparent the OP will not accept this pistol and the force required for ejection. I do not suspect Glock will be able to change it for him so I would advise OP to move it down the road. Should be no problem selling it in the mass gun buying hysteria occurring today. I would also advise to not go parts shopping as it is unlikely to change the "problem" but could change the reliability if incorrect parts are installed. But I doubt that will be listened to either.
For other people who may find this thread in a search for the same question as OP, it is considered normal to have resistance to opening the slide fully to eject a LIVE round from a magazine-less Gen5 model with the Breech Face Cut. If the cut is not there, there is unlikely to be any issue.
Yep, same with mine. Non-issue. Shot great at the outlaw match.
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