How much lubrication do you run on your AR? I took a carbine class years ago and the instructor poured the oil in our rifles. My rifle performed flawlessly in the class so I kept on with the same practice. Now, I always toting my rifle while riding my tractor and my excessive oiling is collecting a lot of dust and debris. I've been lazy and my file has been filthy. I recently had some light primer strikes so I broke it down for a good cleaning. It was really gummed up. That got me thinking about cutting back on the oil to the bare minimum. I'm curious what the group's opinion is on the subject.
''Yeah, what we learned is that nobody shoots their rifle like that (mag dump after mag dump for thousands of rounds) so it was a 100% irrelevant test and people should stop referencing it''
Yes some do shoot their guns like that, some did in that
test, some can learn many things from it and some can't.
I would tell you about a test I was part of when I worked
for a small suppressor company, now they are big, in the
90s. They were trying to get a government contract.
Nope, nobody shoots their rifle like that ever. Nobody dumps thousands of rounds needlessly like that. Some suppressor test is irrelevant as well. We are talking about REALISTIC use. Whether for combat, self defense or training. Nobody does that. So it was 100% useless and people take incorrect information from it.
They think if you use bimetal steel cased rounds that your barrel will only last 4000 rounds. That's 100% untrue and proven.
Nope, nobody shoots their rifle like that ever. Nobody dumps thousands of rounds needlessly like that. Some suppressor test is irrelevant as well. We are talking about REALISTIC use. Whether for combat, self defense or training. Nobody does that. So it was 100% useless and people take incorrect information from it.
They think if you use bimetal steel cased rounds that your barrel will only last 4000 rounds. That's 100% untrue and proven.
I learned that if you shoot your rifle in a non-realistic way with thousands of rounds and aimed at literally nothing, that you can heat it sooooo much that you drastically shorten the lifespan of any barrel.
But using your rifle in any realistic way, whether just at a range, doing some serious training or actually in combat, you literally have nothing to worry about.
Show me someone, anyone, that shoots thousands upon thousands of rounds at nothing with an AR-15. Because that is ALL that they did. Nothing more.
If Lucky Gunner wanted to do something real world then something like the Filthy 14 would be more accurate. What, 67,000 plus rounds in a non-CHF BCM barrel?
I learned that if you shoot your rifle in a non-realistic way with thousands of rounds and aimed at literally nothing, that you can heat it sooooo much that you drastically shorten the lifespan of any barrel.
But using your rifle in any realistic way, whether just at a range, doing some serious training or actually in combat, you literally have nothing to worry about.
I don’t agree with your statement.
But... if you can afford to shoot so much ammo through a AR that you ruin the barrel, you can easily afford another barrel. You can afford another AR.
I don’t agree with your statement.
But... if you can afford to shoot so much ammo through a AR that you ruin the barrel, you can easily afford another barrel. You can afford another AR.
So you support the concept of taking 10,000 rounds and shooting your rifle at literally nothing mag dump after mag dump for no reason and calling it "realistic"? Smh...
Shooting 10,000 rounds out of a rifle at literally nothing? Who does that?
Did I say that?
Regardless, it doesn’t matter what you shoot at - whether at targets or “literally nothing”, the barrel doesn’t care.
I don’t even know what you’re talking about now.
I have been at both ends. I started out with a little oil in my Direct Impingement rifles. Then I went to pouring the oil in there.
The beatemdium I have found is coating the bolt and spraying oil down in the cam-pin channel and then well-coating the outside rails for the bolt.
Just don’t run it dry!
If it looks like there’s not enough oil then add some more.
Also, I have a close friend I used to work with who has the same problem. His weapon is a tool and collects more dirts than rounds fired on the property.
As cliche as it sounds. Just make an extra 10 minutes a week to clean it up good.
When I carried my M16s into harm’s way, I judiciously lubricated the weapons.
Nowadays, I’d just squirt something into the action and go to town. It matters not one but at the ranges or boonies. If for some ungodly reasons I have to carry my personal firearms for protection, I may pay more attention to the librication procedures again.
The govt's lube test dont agree with you. Dust and little lube gets lots of jams. Dust and a lot of lube, works fine.
The lesson here, is that you should use a lot more lube on your gun than you normally would. A thicker viscosity lube stays put better. Even better, a thin grease such as ALG very thin grease, stays put for a really long time.
I left a Ruger trigger spring soaking in that stuff overnight. Came back the next day day and it was caked with gunk. First and last time I tried it. Perhaps I got a bad batch.
Must have been something else going on. Like crap already on the spring.
Break Free is used universally in AR World.
It's like Hoppes #9 of yesteryear except Break Free is a lubricant as well as a cleaner.
Breakfree is pretty thin and has a solvent in it. It disappears pretty quick when used on AR platform rifles. I'd use something else on an AR15.
That said, I like Breakfree and still use it on my .22LR guns. It dissolve all the powder fouling and keeps the guns running for long time, since I dont like spending time cleaning .22LR guns.
I prefer EEZOX. Same concept, cleans lubes and protects. It drys to a thin film lube over time, kind of like lithium or you can use it wet. Very good protectant and does not seem to be affected by cold temps. Does well removing carbon.
I use CLP or good old Hoppes to clean and wipe down the gun, and use Auto Zone high temp red grease for lubrication. $5 for a lifetime supply. Can't beat it.
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