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HK p7 reintroduction... sort of

3K views 15 replies 13 participants last post by  ca survivor 
#1 ·
While I have always liked the aesthetics of the HK p7, I didn't like the squeeze cocking mechanism or the delayed gas piston system. I thought it made the weapon overly complex for a combat handgun. This system did work, so my complaints are minor. But here's the idea I had. What if HK or some other reputable company reintroduced the HK p7 with some changes, which are listed below.
-Replace the squeeze cocking mechanism with a standard striker fired assembly such as those found in glocks, FNS, etc..
-Replace the gas-delayed piston system with either a browning tilting barrel system or a rotating barrel system. (I mention the rotating barrel system because it is more likely to facilitate the low bore axis the p7 is known for.)
-Make the pistol capable of taking 15-17 round double stack magazines.
-Make it available in 4 and 4.5 inch barrels. (Maybe 5 inch barrels as well for those who want to compete with it.)
-Put a 1913 picatinny rail on the dust cover to allow the mounting of lights and lasers for home defense.
Now let's assume this pistol is reliable and accurate. Would you consider it? I would just because I think it's cool. But do you think you would like it? Or would you rather have the original? I wouldn't blame you if you did, either.
 
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#5 ·
Not exactly. The VP9 is a striker fired version of the p30. We're talking about the p7 psp, AKA the squeeze cocker.
With all the radical changes you’re suggesting, you’re really not. One change you mention, 15 to 17 round magazine. They did make the P7M13, with a 13 round magazine, which was quite bulky, and looses the appeal of the P7’s svelteness.

For a Browning or Rotating barrel, you'll likely need to move the recoil spring.

What is the end goal? You looking for a gun that merely looks like a P7.
 
#6 ·
I think that, to do what you suggest, it would have to NOT look like a P7.
 
#10 ·
I'd be happy if they'd just manufacture some parts.
 
#11 · (Edited)
What is so complicated about the P7 other than the squeeze cocking mechanism? :headscratch:

The gas delay blowback is actually pretty simple. I don't see how making it a tilt action or rotary barrel makes it any simpler. :dunno:

You could do away with the squeeze cocker and just put a heavy crappy trigger, add a thumb or grip safety, or just take a chance of an AD.

If you add a rail or make it a double stack it'll just be another big fat pistol.

Regards,
Happyguy :)
 
#12 ·
The gas system heats up and gets cruddy real fast.

Other than that, the Teutonic gods of firearm design knew what they were doing.
 
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