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#1 ·
Seriously? G19.4 brand new.




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#156 ·
I just picked up a plastic dowl. I will fix it for now. I believe I may be at fault for shifting it while putting everything back together after stripping it completely to inspect it before I go shoot it. The slide slipped on the table a couple of times while standing it up getting the firing pin, cover, etc back on.

I bought it in a store. I inspected it. I sure don’t recall seeing this issue until the day I started this post.
Work keeps getting in the way of me going to the range. Hate this job!


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#177 ·
Sorry, but dropping it a few times on the table would not do this.

In the future inspect the pistol prior to purchase.

I bought a Gen 5 17 just because the sights were ever so slightly offset to the right. Folks at the store thought I was crazy. Bet them $20 it would shoot point of aim at 15 yds. They put it in a rest and I heard three shots then a long pause. Then another guy tried. Same thing. Then another.

They paid up.

Don't take my word for it. See it for yourself. Pay a little more to your local dealer but get WHAT YOU PAY FOR.


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#159 ·
Oh snap, time to change out the Sights :D
THIS IS IDENTICAL to an issue I had with a G20 Gen 4 out of the box from Cabela's! The Cabela's manager when I came back to ask for warranty assistance offered me half of my money back at the gun library! I asked for the store manager on a Sunday who came and chose to argue with me and then THREATENED ME with two if his security staff. This happened 3yrs ago at the Cabela's in Hazelwood, MO!
SO YES FOLKS! There are con artists, and then their are people you should NEVER EVER do business with.....Cabela's Hazelwood, MO is one of those places.....
 
#165 ·
I talked to Glock about this issue.

They purposefully position the rear site off a bit to the right as, and I quote, “the average shooter shoots Glocks to the left”, so they help compensate for the novice or average shooter.
I have yet to see this phenomenon in real life (sights being pushed off to one side in Glocks sitting on sales racks).

Not saying it's not happening, just that I haven't seen it.
 
#174 ·
GT distributors in Ringold GA had several. I was picking up my g43 and was fingering a summer special, you know debating. LOL. I checked the rear sight because of the discussions. The summer special was pretty well centered, but still a touch right. The g17 and g19 gen 5s were off bad. We had a discussion about this. GT people weren't worried about it because of the fact that people were putting night sights on the guns.

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#170 ·
Wut?

Nobody uses the stock sights. Get some real sights and get with the program. Attention to detail doesn't matter anymore.
Uhm...I still have the OEM sights on my 1990 G21. They work fine, haven't moved since I bought the gun...in 1990. Can you hit a gallon milk jug at 100 yds with your new fangled sights? Yeah I can...not as consistent as in the 90s as my eyes have gone bad...the sights still work.
 
#178 ·
Did anyone ask... did you shoot it yet? Had to have a sight run to the side on a 1911 once....to stay center with 185 jhps...

Looks matter not, as long as it works. At least to some folks like me. I'd much rather it hit center than have the sights centered because I was anal.
 
#179 ·
Sorry, but dropping it a few times on the table would not do this.

In the future inspect the pistol prior to purchase.

I bought a Gen 5 17 just because the sights were ever so slightly offset to the right. Folks at the store thought I was crazy. Bet them $20 it would shoot point of aim at 15 yds. They put it in a rest and I heard three shots then a long pause. Then another guy tried. Same thing. Then another.

They paid up.

Don't take my word for it. See it for yourself. Pay a little more to your local dealer but get WHAT YOU PAY FOR.


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Are you suggesting that Glock zeros every pistol they ship out?
 
#180 ·
Like I said before, I took the gun back. I am not a Glock fanboy. I have owned several and I still own Gen 4 17 and 21. I hate deceptive marketing. There are far better guns out there than a Glock. Just be a realist and not a follower.

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I have owned Glock Gen 4 43, 26, 30, 21, 19, and 17 and I have never had one issue with the plastic rear sight being off center. You don't need a sight pusher to fix the Gen 5 rear sight. You can use a nylon tipped punch our your hand to move them back in place. I don't believe Glock is drifting them to the right to help limp handed shooters who pull the gun left. I do believe they are lowering their standards and are now mass producing guns with inferior quality compared to the competing polymer guns on the market. Springfield, HK and even S&W guns are sent out of the factory in great working order and with quality. Glock has gotten greedy and let their quality slide. You are only as good as the quality of your products. Loyalists will overlook anything. Try an HK or FN and you won't ever need to worry about Glock plastic sights again because you will never purchase another one.

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#181 ·
I have owned Glock Gen 4 43, 26, 30, 21, 19, and 17 and I have never had one issue with the plastic rear sight being off center. You don't need a sight pusher to fix the Gen 5 rear sight. You can use a nylon tipped punch our your hand to move them back in place. I don't believe Glock is drifting them to the right to help limp handed shooters who pull the gun left. I do believe they are lowering their standards and are now mass producing guns with inferior quality compared to the competing polymer guns on the market. Springfield, HK and even S&W guns are sent out of the factory in great working order and with quality. Glock has gotten greedy and let their quality slide. You are only as good as the quality of your products. Loyalists will overlook anything. Try an HK or FN and you won't ever need to worry about Glock plastic sights again because you will never purchase another one.

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I'm starting to see a pattern to your posts.
 
#183 ·
I hear a lot of people bash the factory plastic Glock sights, but they do have a metal insert in the bottom of the sight and don't move as easily as what some people think. I also use the MGW sight pusher. Maybe the guy who test fired the gun didn't have proper trigger finger placement when he adjusted the sights. LOL And like I've said in previous posts, Glock's aren't always perfection from the factory.
 
#185 ·
Sights being off the right is intentional says glocm customer service. And I got that report from 2 different representatives at different times.

Rear Sights not being perfectly doesn’t make the gun less reliable or durable ... and those equal quality to me more than anything else.
 
#196 ·
Wouldn't the obvious answer be the guy who installed it or who ever knocked it off center?

Is that like rear ending someone and blaming them for being stopped at a red light? If you werent there this would have never happened.

Hey I get what your saying, but lets put blame were it belongs. But OK to give him a hard time to being out to lunch not noticing.
Well what's to Expect? I just can't imagine ME walking out of a gun shop with a new gun like THAT! Don't know about YOU but certainly not ME.

Hey, I actually "DID" have a young gal do that to me once at a stoplight! Young Blonde & Very Dumb. When LEO got there he ask her what her side of the story was and she said "just like He said"!
LEO ask her WHY she ran into me then & she said "I thought he was gonna go". DUH just isn't enough here! :-(

Ya right gal, I'm "gonna go" with cross traffic traveling 40mph & both lanes filled to max.!
WHERE am I gonna go? Maybe she bought a hosed up gun when she got a few years older eh?
 
#211 ·
Several things:

Whatever Glock Representative told you that the rear sights being horribly misaligned to the right is to compensate for THE SHOOTER hitting to the Left is a corporate shill and liar. Full stop.

Whomever would believe that swill is a Cerebral Abbreviate. Full stop.

Are Glocks the best pistols?

Define "best".

There are pistols with better features, for sure. There are more inherently accurate and more ergonomic pistols, too.

But when you need a (long-term)reliable pistol, a durable pistol that will require no thought from the operator for self-defense and has a very simple Preventative Maintenence schedule and simple to work on I do not believe there is a better pistol.

The PVD finish is better than whatever powder/Teflon coating they used prior to now.

Is it perfect? No. Nothing is.

Now some issues that gnaw at my arse with Glock:

Erratic extraction
Locking Block/Locking Lug interface combined with the G19's unique mainspring "hump" has a lot of pistols/shooters hitting left of point of aim. Choose a pistol with the sights CENTERED or *slightly * to the RIGHT.

It would be nice to be "more innovative" but the product WORKS and works well. Kinda like the Porsche 911 and properly manufactured & assembled 1911 designs.

I'll keep a Glock - though I'm liking my Cajun Gun Work CZ P-07 a lot better as of late.


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#212 ·
Preface: I’m not the original am poster but...

#1: The Glock representatives I spoke with (2 different reps on different days) said it is normal for the rear sight to be aligned “SLIGHTLY to the right” ... not “horribly misaligned to the right”. There’s a big difference in that phrasing. I do agree the OP’s rear sight are TOO far to the right as it is slightly hanging off it appears and something looks wrong or like it went wrong here. Sometimes things go wrong, or something leaves the factory NOT perfect... or maybe it happened to it in the store, from mishandling? I don’t know.

Either way - not a HUGE deal as it’s easy to give it a nudge back in the right direction.

My 19.4 and 26.4 rear sights are in the same exact position as one another ... very SLIGHTLY to the right.

I bought Glock recently for all the good reasons you stated above... reliable, durable, easy (operational and maintenance), etc.
 
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