Went to the range the other day and noticed all this Blazer 45 ACP brass someone had left. I scooped it up along with my spent brass. It wasn’t until I started reloading on my Square Deal B that I realized it was small primer brass instead of large primer. What a PIA!
I handed primed them but I think in the future it’s best to just toss them.
Went to the range the other day and noticed all this Blazer 45 ACP brass someone had left. I scooped it up along with my spent brass. It wasn’t until I started reloading on my Square Deal B that I realized it was small primer brass instead of large primer. What a PIA!
I handed primed them but I think in the future it’s best to just toss them.
I separate small and large primer 45 cases. I load the SPP just like the large. There usually is a tiny difference in velocity for otherwise identical loads.
One thing I like about the SPP 45's, they usually have very clean cases inside due to the "clean" primers. Makes seeing the powder drop very easy. FTTDK, it is the primer that leaves all the black soot in a spent case.
Went to the range the other day and noticed all this Blazer 45 ACP brass someone had left. I scooped it up along with my spent brass. It wasn’t until I started reloading on my Square Deal B that I realized it was small primer brass instead of large primer. What a PIA!
I handed primed them but I think in the future it’s best to just toss them.
Keep them for the next components shortage. If you run out of LP, you can still load .45acp. I try to bag all brass, as I'm picking it up, separately for this reason...and to keep things like .380 and 9mm segregated.
Exactly. If large primers are unavailable (it happened a few years back) then use small primers. Also if I am shooting somewhere that I know I can not retrieve my brass, I shoot the small primer brass.
I converted all my 45ACP to SPP during the last component shortage. Several reasons ,1) didn't have to change primer assembly out on the 550 and 2) no longer need to stock LPP; so I just stock SPP higher and deeper.
Almost everything I shoot is small primer; 22Hornet, 223, 300BO, 380ACP, 9mm, 38Spl, 357Mag/Max, 357Sig, 40S&W, 45ACP and 45GAP. The 30-30 I just hand prime on the Lee hand primer.
I consider it my DUTY to make certain that SPP .45 brass is removed from circulation. I separate is as necessary and toss it into the trash. Sometimes, if I feel especially unhappy about it, I will take the time to smash the cases with a hammer.
There is the theory of "Six Degrees Of Separation" which states that any two living things are only 6 steps apart (friend of a friend of a friend...). So, should I fail in my duty, the brass could get used by somebody and then somebody else and so on until, ultimately, it's back in my brass bucket.
Now that you mention it, my SP 45ACP were more accurate than my LP 45ACP in the same gun. IIRC, some gun writer made a similar comment many, many years ago. Lane Pierce I think it was.
I load the LP brass for my use and use the SP brass for "lost brass" matches.
That just keeps the brass in circulation. It was 'lost' to you but somebody got it and they reload it and leave it at a range and, sooner or later, it's back in your bucket.
That SP brass can make a mess out of loading on a 1050, it's pretty ugly on a 650. It needs to be trashed!
I really like your sorter! You build the most amazing gadgets!
Of the canister grade stuff, definitely. Some "clean" SPP cases are cleaner inside than others, but in any case, the normal primer is nasty stuff.
I know Fred knows this, but anyone wanting to see just how nasty normal primers really are, prime a clean case, load it into a shorter barrel gun, hang a white rag over the muzzle and fire it. You probably won't be shooting much at indoor ranges after that..
I converted all my 45ACP to SPP during the last component shortage. Several reasons ,1) didn't have to change primer assembly out on the 550 and 2) no longer need to stock LPP; so I just stock SPP higher and deeper.
Almost everything I shoot is small primer; 22Hornet, 223, 300BO, 380ACP, 9mm, 38Spl, 357Mag/Max, 357Sig, 40S&W, 45ACP and 45GAP. The 30-30 I just hand prime on the Lee hand primer.
Years ago, I found that the Blazer Brass load was the most accurate Ball ammo across the board in several pistols ranging from hardballer to Brown and Nighthawks. That was fine and I kept buying masses of it. Somewhere they switched to small primer. The boxes have the same part number and graphics but the large primer box was slightly larger in width and length. Accuracy has been the same but velocity was systematically (say 45fps) lower in small primer ammo. I still buy it and segregate because it is cheaper than most and with 3 progressive presses using small primers in .45acp isn't a problem for me.
That just keeps the brass in circulation. It was 'lost' to you but somebody got it and they reload it and leave it at a range and, sooner or later, it's back in your bucket.
Yeah, I used to use them for my 45 ACP revolvers as the small primer let be have a better trigger pull and still retain 100% ignition vs the large primers. The moon clips keep them all together and from getting mixed up.
Then I found that 45 GAP doesn't require any tools to moon/demoon so that's what I use for the revos now.
I hated the 45acp small primers at first, UNTIL, (wait for it....)
i realized i didnt have to change out my priming system to go from 45acp back to 9mm.
I load only small and trade my large to a friend for his small. His daughter shoots 1,000 rounds a weekend in competition or practice and his load is large primer based. I don't shoot a ton of .45 and small primer us fine for me.
If you don't like small primer brass, trade it, toss it or take it for recycling. It's really that simple.
If you dont like a certain type of brass, there a many people that would take it off your hands.
But PLEASE dont throw it away... Just let people know you have it, someone will gladly take it.
Or just leave it at the range in a bag marked "Free to a good home". Guaranteed to be gone by sunset. . At my club people do this all the time.
What drives me crazy is people who collect range brass and sell it to a metal recycler. If you want to make a few bucks off range pickups, sell it to someone who will reload it, not someone who will melt it down.
Our local ranges have rules that allow shooters to give their brass to another shooter if they aren’t going to use it themselves. It’s prohibited to just go around picking up everyone’s brass because the ranges sells the discarded brass to help with maintenance costs.
For a long time, I ocassionally got to shoot at a private range co-owned by a couple of LE agencies. Some days, I would be standing in a sea of SPP 45 Auto cases and other days 40S&W cases. I always knew who had last shot at the range.
I was allowed to pickup as much brass as I wanted as they paid a service to come clean the spent cases out of the range.
I think my stores of both will out live me but I still pick as much of my spent cases as possible, each range visit. I have often thought a good title for a reality TV show would be "Brass Hoarders".
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