For those of you that shoot (shot) Universal, the machine has been replaced and the powder is available. I loaded about 100 45 GAP rds with a near max load and when I shot them they barely cycled the gun and I heard that tell tale Phit..... Dink.
So I thought it was probably me and my recipe. I checked all aspects and my load should have been at the top of the range for the bullet, caliber etc. Anyone else have an issue with "New" Universal?
I just got a pound a couple weeks ago to play with in 9mm and got very good Accuracy with 4 grs under a 124 gr tc bullet loaded at 1.075 from bayou bullets. The group was 1.75"@20yds rested. The only thing I didn't like about it was smokie and a little dirty comparing it to my load that I been using which is 3.8 grs of prima v. I can go up to 4.3 grs with universal so I don't know if the universal will clean up any or not by bumping it up a few more tenths? I'm really not looking for top performance but just want to make min power factor.
No this is the first time to ever to load any with this powder why has it changed or something? It just seemed like it should be a good all around powder.My main interest for it right know is the 9mm. I think it is probley better suited for the other rounds that I was thinking of using it in plus I just enjoy playing lol.
Bought 2 lb of that a year ago while looking for a low recoil recipe. Used 1 lb of it in my rifle, 45LC loaded on the low end of the book. Very dirty, unburnt powder all over. Worked fine in the rifle, just dirty. The other LB sits unopened.
Thanks willy for the offer and thanks to those who replied. I am going to make a concerted effort to use clean brass, weigh every charge and every bullet and see if I can trouble shoot. I will report back over the weekend, thanks again.
For my 200gr coated SWC'c I am at the maximum factory recommended load with a 3 year old can of Universal. My chrony reports them @ 958 which is about 25 fps faster than the factory recommended max load. Universal has been my "go-to" powder for target ammo for the GAP for the past 5 or 6 years.
For JHP that need a bit more speed I use Blue Dot or CFE-Pistol.
Thanks willy for the offer and thanks to those who replied. I am going to make a concerted effort to use clean brass, weigh every charge and every bullet and see if I can trouble shoot. I will report back over the weekend, thanks again.
I think sending powder would be problematic anyway.
Depending on how you feel about shooting another's reloads (all the smartest guys I know refuse to do it.. ), I could load up some comparison loads with the old stuff. I have a lot of different bullets and primers to pick from, I could even probably do them with the same headstamp and send you some of the same headstamp and bullets for your comparison tests. I think plain old people can send loaded ammo.
If you decide you would like to pursue it, I can contact UPS and see how hard it might be.
I appreciate the offer. I really think I need to access a chrono before I ask anyone to assist other than providing advice, I made 10 rounds meticulously weighing bullet and charge and they still shot like a bb gun. If I am really getting 900 fps+ with this load, I will be tickled pink.
Thanks Turn, I was thinking of going up 1/2 a grain. That will mimic your load as I load an xtreme 200 grn coated JHP. I have great loads with Power Pistol that match the Speer GDHP but I also have 8 lbs of Universal and it was what I was using before the fire destroyed the machine.
It's amazing how long an 8 lb jug seems to last for pistol powder...
Let me know how the Xtreme plated 200gr HP's work. I have a bag of them and 2 bags of the plated 200gr FN that I got on Black Friday last year that I haven't had a chance to use yet.
I would think it was different than my load. I have a coated 200gr SWC which is similar to lead. Th Xtrems are a heavy plated slug which can be similar to a jacketed round. Good luck.
I will buy other plated or jacketed bullets but the consistency I am getting with the Monmouth Reloading coated SWC's is difficult to beat.
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