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XDM and Glock

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Madmax1010, Jan 3, 2012.


  1. Madmax1010

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    Hello

    I have been out shooting the springfield XDm 45 4.5 and my glock 21sf.
    These two guns are excellent,Accurate and very dependable in my opinion.
    In the last two days I have put 900 rds thru each.
    I carry a sig p220 or a 1911 but after spending the last two days shooting the glock and the XDM it is very tempting to reconsider.

    As far as in your opinion , dependability and durability which would take the lead?

    BTW I know this is a glock forum but try to lookpast this with your replies. Thanks

    I'm not talking about feel or accuracy just Dependability and durability.
     

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  2. DWARREN123

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    From my experience the Glock has held up much better. My experience is a few years old and just me, YMMV. :wavey:
     

  3. legion3

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    Oh I think they both will be solid in those departments.

    The XD45 line of guns just hasn't been out as long as the Glock 21 has been (so less long term knowledge) but I bet both will likely outlast you in durability.

    The polymer mags of the Glock are likely to take more abuse and last longer than the metal mags of the XD but that would be a very very small issue overall and not likely to matter.
     
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    I don't think there will be much difference in dependability, both are good quality guns. I have a G21 and shoot action pistol with friends that have the XD. Both brands run OK if fed good ammo and the shooter does his part. :whistling:
     
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    I've never had a failure with either.
    I found the XDm 45 more pleasant to shoot and liked the ergonomics better.
    I like that the glock doesn't have a grip safety.

    All around, I like the XDm 45 as a whole more than I like any Glock in 45. A lot of this has to do with the fat grip on the glock 45s. The XDms perform much better in my hands because they fit in my hands better. If you have gorilla hands, it may be a non-issue, but for me, even the SF versions aren't comfortable. I think they are both incredibly dependable and durable.
     
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    I prefer to shoot, service and tweak a Glock. Both are old enough as XDs are a legacy Croatian design.

    Go glock!
     
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    I have more trust in my Glock's durability over my XDM. Especially with the magazines. The glock mags I feel like i can throw down in the dirt step on then pick up and still be 100%. Def wouldn't dare do that with the Springfield mags.
     
  8. brisk21

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    Both guns should meed anyones expectations of durability and depentability. That being said, go with the one you like to shoot more. Its actually a very hard choice. You'll probably end up with both. I prefer the Glock platform. (Ive had both)
     
  9. TX expat

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    I think you'd be fine with either in that regard, and that's from someone who owns XDs and has never owned a Glock...

    I've carried an XD as my CCW pistol for several years now and I've never had one issue with it (and more than enough rounds put through it to feel comfortable saying so). The XD is a rugged pistol and from the durability and dependability aspects, you probably wouldn't see any difference from a Glock. Obviously with no personal experience about Glock, I can't testify to much, but its combat worthiness has been proven enough times over that I don't need to carry one to know how it would hold up.

    My only real gripe about the XD line is the grip safety. It didn't used to seem like a negative, but the more "worst case scenario" type of stuff I read and try and practice for, the more I'm finding that safety a liability. That's completely a personal opinion though and I don't expect it to necessarily apply to anyone but me.
     
  10. Madmax1010

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    I have heard a lot of complaining when it comes to the grip safety on the XD guns.
    I personally don't have any problems with it because I'm an old 1911 fart anyway. Just for the heck of it why do possibly see the grip safety a liability?
     
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    For me it's all about manipulation under stress/injury/weak hand types of situations. I've shot thousands of rounds through my XD and it's never actually been an issue, but after I started doing some dry fire practice stuff, I have actually had a couple of times where I couldn't get pin to drop simply because I wasn't fully engaging the safety.

    Is that relevant for most applications? Probably not, and I admit that I was making an effort to create situations where I wouldn't be able to just draw my pistol and shoot normally. It did concern me enough that I've decided to look at something without any external safeties for my CCW weapon though.
     
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    I really like XD's except for the grip safety.

    Which is why i carry Glock. Both are about even in the accuracy, dependability, etc categories.

    If you are OK with the grip safety, both will be a good choice in carry weapon. I can't recommend one over the other.
     
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    I've had a couple of issues while practicing drawing from concealment where i didn't get my grip perfect which resulted in the grip safety not being pressed enough to fire the weapon. And under the stress of a life/death scenario i feel that's a probable situation.

    Also during malfunction drills it has been an issue more so. Since you have to depress the safety in order to rack the slide.
     
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    I never had a problem with the XD grip safety. I could take it or leave it. My XD and XDM always shot great and everthing. The gun just didn't fit my hand as well as the Glocks and I like the Glock trigger much better. That is the main reasons I prefer Glocks. You can't go wrong with either, and I think that the XD series is underrated when compared to other designs such as M&Ps, Sigs, HKs, and Glocks.
     
  15. D3S3RT_P3NGU1N

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    This thread should give you your answer :supergrin:

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/13658_.html&page=1
     
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    Both are great, but for your criteria, i would go with Glock, by a slight margin.
     
  17. Madmax1010

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    Ya I seen that before that is impressive to say the least.
    I don't know if there are any other guns i know of that with fair that well to be honest. It would be interesting to see if an XDM would come close or not.
    Have you ever seen anything torture tests done on XDM's or XD's any where near like that?
     
  18. LawScholar

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    I read a person's extremely harrowing personal defense story once where they had to deploy their 1911 (Colt Commander) and their hand had been injured, which delayed firing by several seconds. It's a long shot but a risk I'd rather not take.

    I'm partial to Glock. XD's a fine gun, though.
     
  19. TX expat

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    There's several extensive torture test articles on the XD. Heck, I've seen one on one of the Hi-Point pistols that was pretty impressive.

    I can't say how definitively close they are to that one but it's enough to say that they all exceeded any realistic use that any normal person would ever subject a firearm to. Dropped in mud, sand and stuff like that, yeah sure; that stuff is probably all good, real-world test criteria. Does it matter that a Glock can be cemented inside a block of concrete, then buried in a yeti's rectum for two months before being extracted, chipped out and then fired? No so much.
     
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    In .45ACP I prefer the XD (size and fit). I view my XD's and Glocks as identical in reliability and performance.

    With regard to the grip safety, I like it. I don't see the limitations and concerns others have (they are entitled to their opinions and they are valid opinions, we just happen to disagree). I cannot manage to get any resonable grip I would fire from that does not result in the saftey working as designed. If I contort my grip to an insane position that fails to operate the grip safety, I cannot imagine actually firing the gun like that (I think the gun would chip my teeth or hit me in the ear!).

    Pick the one you like. Both are viable options. Pick the one that fits you best. If it is a dead tie-breaker prioritize the two following items or let price decide:

    If you like the idea of safer holstering WITH a grip safety, get the XD.
    If you like the idea of potentially less safe holstering, but NO grip safety, get the Glock.

    Both arguments have a hint of reality, but both are pretty long reaches... odds are, with good technique both will adequately serve!

    As for the mags... Never had an XD mag problem. Never had a Glock mag problem. Metal mags help allow for thinner grips on XD. Aside from the benefit of thin-ness, I see little advantage of one over the other.