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WWII ammo issued w/ 1911, what type?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by 12smile, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. 12smile

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    Just saw Youtube vid of black talon hollowpoint...not only does it have sharp petals, it has hooks to tear arteries.

    Just saw a promo for HBO The Pacific series and a guy was pointing a 1911 and I asked myself..."Does he have what I'd consider 'range ammo" in that pistol.

    Someone here knows the answer to this question.

    Thanks
     
  2. MD357

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    They issued ball ammo in WWII, if that's what you're asking. Not 100% sure since your post doesn't make a ton of sense.

    FWIW, Black Talon ammo is outdated.
     


  3. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

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    If I were ever ta shoot a WWII 1911,it'd be a quality ball ammo..........


    That being said,if I lucked up and ever did land a WWII 1911,I don't know if I'd shoot it all that much.'08. :dunno:
     
  4. 12smile

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    I was wondering if they had hollow point bullets or armor piercing bullets for the side arms in WWII..my guess is that they didn't.
     
  5. paul45

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  6. When I shot my WWII 1911 I used 230gr ball rounds. I was surprised it held about a3 inch group at about 15 yds. The black talons are no longer made the current production is the ranger talons made by Winchester.
     
  7. Jim Watson

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    I think there was some issue of pistol tracers to pilots; meant for them to use as flares if forced down.
     
  8. BOGE

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  9. MajorD

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    since the hague accords that were signed by most countries in the late 1890's early 1900's which states it is prohibited to use ammo designed or calculated to increase suffering or wounding, all military issue ammo has been hardball.in fact in wwI the germans tried to cry foul when soldiers using shotguns(plain lead buckshot) did trench raids and said the lead buck violated the rules- that one did not fly however.up to the present day standard issue ammo for all military small arms in US inventory is full metal jacket hardball
     
  10. raven11

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    if it was issued it must have been WWII, because we have been using pen flares since the birth of the Air Force
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  11. polizei1

    polizei1 It WAS Quack

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    Just a FYI if you didn't already know, the Marine Corps has been looking into new ammo recently. I remember seeing this in February when it was posted.

    http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2010/02/marine_SOST_ammo_021510w/

    The new rounds are supposed to be a good improvement, and are lead-core copper jacketed rounds. Apparently these have also been deemed legal by the pentagon, though I haven't heard anything from my unit, so I suspect they either won't use them because they are too expensive, or just don't really care. :faint:

    Anyway, just though I would throw that in there...I would personally like to see some hollowpoint boat tails. :whistling:

    -Cody
     
  12. SHOOTR13

    SHOOTR13 G30SF Owner

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    FMJ during WWII

    Ahhh...Black Talons !! Still have quite a few boxes of 'em in assorted calibers.

    A little history: ( Thanks Wikipedia )

    The ammunition was used by the gunman of the 1993 Long Island Railroad mass murder. In 1996 a lawsuit was subsequently filed by one of the victim's family members (McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y., 1996)) claiming that Olin Corp. should be liable for the shooting spree based on the design, manufacture, marketing, and sale of Black Talon ammunition. The claims against Olin were dismissed because it was held that the bullets were not defectively designed. Winchester bowed to pressure and in 1993 removed the ammunition from public sale for a time, and eventually law enforcement also bowed to the pressure, but at no time was it, nor is it presently, illegal to possess the Black Talon ammunition.
     
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  13. Spiffums

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  14. Look at the key in the right bottom corner of the box... Guns already had safety locks back then. :crying:
     
  15. brisk21

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    The ammo used during WWII was 230gr. FMJ or Ball ammo. I believe at around 820 FPS. The way I look at it, 230gr. ball ammo was devistating back then and that is the ammo that gained the .45s reputation as a great manstopper. I figure modern quality hollowpoint .45 ammo must REALLY be good.
     
  16. .45Super-Man

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    Very nice deadite, I never get tired of looking at that! This is where it all began.