I currently have a set of the CT 405 compact Laser Grips for my J-frame. they have a manufacturing date of Sept 2010. Despite wanting to like them I just cannot get used to them as it changes my grip too much. As this would be for belt carry only, I would like to trade with someone that might have the CT 305 Extended Grip version with a similar manufacturing date. Anyone wanna trade?? **Mods*** I could not find where this posting might fit...you can move it as needed!