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WST load data ???

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by MarkTX, Feb 22, 2009.


  1. MarkTX

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    I recently got an 8lb jug of Winchester Super Target to share with a buddy, he wanted to try it with his 45acp match loads. I've found 2 sources for load data on the net but wondered if anyone on here has worked up some pet loads with this powder ? 230gr FMJ, 225gr LRN, 200gr LSWC would be the bullets used.

    Its doesn't seem to be the favorite on the various reloading forums as I find only rare mention of it. Also, I might try it with 9mm and 40 FMJ - IDPA loads -any data on those calibers you guys have tested ? :embarassed:
     

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  2. bobo06

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    My ipsc load for years has been 5.7 grains of WST with a 200 grain lead SWC from a lyman mold . about a 180 power factor
     

  3. tjpet

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    9mm:

    115/124grn. 4.8-5.4grns. WST

    147grn. 3.2-3.8grns. WST

    .40:

    180grn. 3.2-3.8grns. WST

    200grn. 3.0-3.4grns. WST

    .45ACP:

    200grn. 4.4-5.1grns. WST

    230grn. 4.4-4.9grns. WST

    I love WST for target/mid-range loads. Accurate, clean burning, and low recoil it's my go-to powder for the common semi-auto pistol rounds.
     
  4. fredj338

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    Hey Bob, you sure that's 5.7gr? That is pushing WST very, very hard. I have been shooting 4.9-5gr under a 200grLSWC for years. It chronos 900fps+/- w/ the best accuracy of any powder I have tried. For a 230grLRN, 4.5gr gives 830fps & the same charge under a 230grFMJ yields just under 800fps.
    Like tj, it's my powder choice for accuracy/target loads in 9mm & 45acp. It does ok in the 40 but I get better accuracy w/ WSF for some reason.
     
  5. MarkTX

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    Wow, thanks guys lots more data to compair than I expected :cool:

    I've found the data at: http://stevespages.com/page8.htm very helpful in the past for doing a quick check on reported loads, but its not clear on that site what bullet is being used (lead or jacketed).
     
  6. MarkTX

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    Can I assume all those load were jacketed bullets ?
     
  7. bobo06

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    Yes it is 5.7 grains. and no it is not a jacketed bullet. I think it's a lyman#468 mold but i'm not sure on that. Chrono's at 920 -930 fps.
     
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    Bob, sorry man, that just sounds hot! I recently ran some 5gr/200grLSWC loads over my Oehler from a XDTAC & one of my 1911s. I get 910 & 925fps respectively. I've got to think that 5.7gr load is running hard on the heels of 1000fps from a 5" gun or maybe oyu've got a slightly oversized chamber that is showing up as a "slow" bbl.:dunno:
     
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    I use 4.6 grains of WST under a Hornady 230 gr. FMJ. Chrono's at 770 FPS out of a 5 inch barrel.
     
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    Hodgdon Powder Company
    Cartridge Load Recipe Report - 2/22/2009
    data.hodgdon.com 45 ACP
    Load Type: Pistol Powder: WSF

    Cartridge Information
    Case: Winchester Barrel Length: 5"
    Twist: 1:16" Trim Length: .893"
    Primer: FEDERAL 150

    45 ACP
    Cartridge Load Data Starting Loads

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    Maximum Loads

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    Bullet Weight (Gr.) Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
    155 GR. CAST LSWC WSF .451" 1.230" 7.1 934 11,600 CUP 7.9 1064 15,900 CUP
    180 GR. LFP WSF .452" 1.140" 6.6 887 12,200 CUP 7.3 1003 16,500 CUP
    185 GR. HDY JSWC WSF .451" 1.195" 6.8 886 13,400 CUP 7.5 981 17,400 CUP
    200 GR. CAST LSWC WSF .451" 1.225" 6.0 870 15,200 CUP 6.7 970 19,400 CUP
    200 GR. SPR JHP WSF .451" 1.155" 6.1 807 12,500 CUP 6.8 929 16,700 CUP
    230 GR. HDY FMJ FP WSF .451" 1.200" 5.7 766 12,100 CUP 6.4 851 15,700 CUP
    230 GR. LRN WSF .452" 1.200" 5.8 832 14,500 CUP 6.3 892 16,800 CUP


    NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS
     
  11. MarkTX

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    Where did you get that data, I like the detail.

    However, I was asking about WST not WSF :embarassed:
     
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    Look at the Hogdon powder site. Just google Hogdon & go to data.
     
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    Another advantage of using WST is it's always available. Everyone is still stuck on Bullseye and 231.
     
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    I use 4.5 gr WST behind a 230 gr plated RN bullet and a 200 gr LSWC.
    Economical, clean and soft shooting.
     
  16. tjpet

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    I've used the data for lead, plated, and jacketed bullets.
     
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    Note TJ gave a range for charges. Using lead data for jacketed is ok, but not the other way around. Note in my earlier reply, the same charge under a lead bullet was 30fps faster. Since there are no free lunches when it comes to vel. vs pressure, the lead load will have slightly higher pressure w/ identical charges.
     
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    I just tried WST this weekend with 45ACP. It is accurate and clean. Nice. Thank you Mr. President. I would have never tried it except it was about the only powder on the shelf.
     
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    Howdy All,

    1. I won't give credit to our current administration - however - they may have influenced me to buy another 8 lb jug of WST last weekend.

    2. May the anti's RIH.
    ML27
     
  20. djinco

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    Ah there is a silver lining in everything. If you are neck deep in bull crap, at least you are warm.

    The light at the end of the tunnel? It's a freight train coming at you.:rofl: