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Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Gunnut 45/454, Mar 14, 2012.
Thats exactly what it says and it explains in great detail why.
You are missing the point of Paul. I think he is fairly confident he can't win. He just now has a lot of attention for his ideas. I think he will hang on to spread his ideas across the United States, and then head back to Austin.
So, you agree that a person that hasn't won a single primary and only come in second in a couple could have more delegates than a fellow that has won 7 or 8 and has come in second in 4 or 5? Seriously?
Someone post up a delegate count to date, and stop this Ron Paul fantasy
That's just it, the media is counting all delegates as they are supposedly proportioned out. Problem is that many of the delegates chosen are in non binding caucus states. Which means that even though the popular vote may have been for Rick Santorum those delegates in that state do not necessarily represent him. Again for a better understanding of what I'm not very good at explaining please watch the video posted above.
There is no accurate up to date count. No human in the world knows the real count until they show up in Tampa. Some states' processes take months- some are a contest of who can keep showing up day after day. That's why the cnn link says "estimate"
Yes, let's do that
Exactly, the "delegate tracker" is worthless. The only ones known for sure are in the winner takes all states.
There are times when it is a good thing to keep a positive outlook, then there are times to face reality.
He's probably not just running for the entertainment value. I'm sure he has a plan to peddle some influence.
Funny you should mention that...
Thinly sourced but still interesting, from yesterday:
Discussions between Paul and Romney are "taking shape"
There's that "hope" again. Has Obama not adequately demonstrated yet what happens when "hope" and "reality" collide?
What, in real life, is going to make all those people "like you" even run for Congress, let alone get elected?
Take the red pill.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm4YRf0HIVs&feature=g-u-u&context=G27fbce8FUAAAAAAAKAA"]Collapsing, and the main stream begs for more - YouTube[/ame]
Are you of the opinion that Ron P. has more delegates than Santorum?
Goalie, The weakness in that theory about Ron Paul delivering his young supporters to Romney is that it just won't happen. Those young supporters aren't going to compromise their beliefs and support Romney or one of the other GOP candidates. Should Dr. Paul not win the nomination they will either vote for a third party candidate, write in Ron Paul, or not cast a vote for president at all.
I don't know, i doubt it. But in missouri, where santorum won huge in the primary vote and paul got something like 12%, it looks like paul is going to end up with the majority of the delegates. I think the same thing is happening in several places, like nevada. I don't know, i don't think anybody knows what is really happening, and it's not over anyway.
santorum beat him 55% to 12% in primary beauty contest, and is getting killed where it counts, apparently
Have you at least watch the video he posted?
"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it is realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy. - Ron Paul
And from what i understand, even those are only bound for the first round. If the first round isn't decisive, ie romney doesn't get the 1144 or whatever it is on the first round, then even the bound delegates from those winner take all states become unbound and can change to whoever they want for the next round. In other words, if romney doesn't take it on the first shot, anything could happen. I think i've got that right, not positive.
either way, the MSM "delegate tracker" is propaganda at best, total BS at worst. nobody knows until it happens