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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by SC_Dave, Nov 9, 2012.
In my neck of the woods, they'd get heavy resistance.
Doesn't the government know what we have from non-private sales and purchase because of the federal form we fill out and background checks?
From the background checks? No, they don't know anything (make, model, serial number, etc) from that.
From the form? The form stays with your dealer. (unless dealer goes out of business within a certain number of years of your purchase)
Here as well
I can think of three states right off the bat that would be a real challenge for them to disarm....FL, TX and AZ.
Here in FL it would be a bloodbath!
4473's are not kept on file by the ATF, thus allowing them to be able to say "there is NO federal registry of gun owners". However, FFLs ARE required to retain these forms, and surrender them on demand to the ATF.
Thus, they have denial, and have shifted the responsibility off to the FFL.
Don't panic. They have rattled this saber before to get people to react with fear, panic buying, ect. ( besides the fact that the source is questionable)
But also, be ready, have a plan that is not just" shoot them at my door'. Think.
We have TIME to plan. use it.
Best thing to do is NOT be there when they knock...be on vacation with your guns.
Will they maybe send you a postcard advising when they will come and knock? If you are not there do they forget about you completely or maybe come back in a few weeks? What if you are in the shower when they come?
If the deadline for voluntary turn in is July 1, 201x at noon then the battle starts July 1, 201x at noon.
Sitting around waiting for them to come is a fools move.
TAKING THE GUNS IS NOT AN END GAME, IT IS BUT A STEP ON A PATH TO ENSLAVEMENT.
But one person attempting to fend off an entire tactical team is not a fool's move?
No, it is a patrot's move, and his duty to defend the Constitution.
If enough of us do it then they will retreat back to Washington with their tails between their legs!
DO NOT be afraid to stand up for your rights! THAT would be a fool's move.
After the Katrina nightmare, Kentucky's General Assembly had the sense to pass laws protecting citizens from LE confiscation of firearms during times of disaster (as long as the person isn't using the weapon illegally, of course).
Of course, that doesn't mean they cannot take them, it just means that they cannot take them legally.
They sure like to elect wackos and commies out there.
Leftist housewives seem to be their favorite at election time.
We had a Pelosi clone running in Iowa but sent her packing.
We should all understand one very important thing. A treaty with the UN trumps states rights. Doesn't matter what each state has passed reference law regarding confiscation. The treaty will dictate the final verdict in the minds of the feds. With the treaty in place, our innocent, compassionate federal government can then divert blame to the UN, all the while gently coaxing (read FORCING) your state into abiding the mandates of the treaty.
It will be the individual that guarantees your own right, knock-by-knock and arrest-by-arrest. BTW, they USUALLY knock after o'dark thirty.
International treaty does not trump the constitution.
It doesn't in my eyes either. But this isn't the same world we used to live in. You wouldn't think municipal or state law would trump the Constitution either but I can think of places in the US you can't have a handgun, or it has to be "approved" first.
20 states have already filed petitions to secede from the Union. If the UN treaty passes you will see things that you never thought you would see happen in America.
When the knocking starts the shooting begins.
Sorry liberals, it has to be this way, you should have been smarter!
Again, when the patriots war starts, do not be sitting around the house waiting to be scooped up by a tactical team.
The president can't just do whatever he wants be executive order. Their has to be some legislation in place to authorize him (well the executive branch, but it goes up to him) to issue such orders under the legislation. AFAIK, none of the gun control laws in give him anywhere near the level of power we're talking about.
It's a pretty big if. If it did happen it's would be less unlikely. But that still doesn't get it out of the unlikely category.
Even if the two recent pro 2A rulings got overturned, the Congress would still have to pass legislation. That would then be challenged, and win. Besides the 2A, there's the whole 4A (search and seizure) issue.
I would take my AR and remove the upper, stock, grip, trigger group and take the stripped upper out to the driveway with a BFH and beat the hell out of it. Then turn it in
I have a lot more respect for this guy, than somebody who would allow the SS to subdue them and take away their rights and dignity by force. Anybody who would be enforcing the dismantling of the Constitution by the socialists would be SS.
I don't think it is going to happen. The SCOTUS has spoken. We are a nation of laws even though we have a lawless administration.