I think that I have about had it with the Winchester Ranger line of ammunition. Strike One: I ordered a case of RA9B (9mm 147gr bonded) a few years ago from OMB Express. This was during the ammunition buying craze when very little was generally available. I wouldn't have gone with RA9B if not for the price and availability during that time. Every round from that case is FUBAR. We had discussions about it here on GT at the time and the end result seemed to be everybody said it was acceptable and nobody would take returns or exchanges or otherwise fix the problem. I refuse to load it defensively because it is FUBAR, IMO, which basically made for an expensive case of practice ammo/general JHP feed testing ammo. You cannot tell me the row on the bottom meet any kind of QC standard for bet-your-life ammunition. Coincidentally as a result of this plus another problem I had with them I refuse to do business with OMB Express. I did not hand pick anything for this picture. I took the first 4 rounds out of two different boxes, one each from the above mentioned case and a different source at a different time. They are representative. If you take any of the rounds from the 'FUBAR' case that is how they will look, if not worse. Strike Two I bought a Glock 30SF this spring. It was my first/only .45. I bought RA45T (.45 auto 230gr talon) as my initial choice in JHP ammunition. The RA45T failed miserably in the 30SF. I blame the 30SF, but then HST +P failed once in 100 rounds and the RA45T failed once in every 10-15 rounds. Also, I came across this round fresh out of the box: This round might function properly, or it might fail to extract if the side that has material missing is the area that the extractor attempts to grab. Strike Three I ordered a few boxes of RA9TA (9mm 127gr talon +P+) from mahsupplies around a couple of months ago. I took the first box of it out with my Glock 26 yesterday and I loaded this round without noticing (good reminder to inspect every single round you load for actual potential defensive use!) it until it failed to fire: It is more disfigured than I can get the image to convey. I am surprised I loaded it at the range without noticing. The gun partially chambered it. The slide appeared to be forward and the trigger reset but it was not completely in battery and of course would not fire. What is going on here? How do we get entire cases/an entire batch/whatever it was of RA9B that looks like that? And it is supposedly okay? Am I just that unlucky that out of the last 3 boxes of Ranger Talon I have fired I came across two totally FUBAR rounds in two different calibers? I have always preferred Gold Dot. I have fired more of them than any other JHP in my years of shooting. The more these things happen the more and more I strongly prefer Gold Dot. Has anybody else experienced anything similar? Wanna kill these ads? We can help!