All, I'm working with some WIN 231 in .45 and looking for a load using 185 JHP from MG. I have a Speer manual 5th edition from 1998 that lists a Speer Gold Dot 185 g bullet at 6.6 to 7.4 g of 231. Does that seem excessive? I've looked all over for similar data. The current WIN data indicates 5.0-5.9 g for a 185 g JSWC. Why the BIG difference? What is your experience? I've loaded up 15 rounds with 7.0 g over the 185 to test but am now wondering if that is prudent despite what my Speer manual says. JD Wanna kill these ads? We can help!