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Why M4gery?

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by JTLIII, Feb 3, 2010.



    Mar 13, 2007
    What's the deal with everyone calling them that?
  2. Because they aren't really a M4, they are close but not quite the real thing.



    Mar 13, 2007
    because of the lack of burst/full auto? or the barrel length?
  4. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

    Nov 24, 2005
    Here's my Colt "M4gery" :rofl:
    Almost done,............all Colt parts.

    Last edited: Feb 3, 2010
  5. crazymoose

    crazymoose Nonentity

    Feb 9, 2005
    Semi-auto, and most of them use different materials and manufacturing processes than those specified in the military TDP (technical data package).

    For example, a Colt M4 has to use 4150 CMV barrel steel, have a proof-tested, shot-peened bolt, use a fiberglass-reinforced plastic for the furniture, a forged receiver extension with the threads rolled in, and many other specified things. Your average Rock River, Bushmaster, or S&W passes few, if any, of these criteria.

    To the best of my knowledge, only Colt actually does every one of those things. Even then, we have to take Colt's word for it, because there are no government inspectors making sure the rifles going into law enforcement and civilian hands actually adhere to the same military standard.
  6. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

    Nov 24, 2005
    My Colt is good acording to the "All Mighty Chart"

  7. DGreno

    DGreno FF/Paramedic Silver Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Savannah, GA
    This is my reasoning.
  8. That chart really shook me, so I ended up with a Noveske N4 Light Basic upper. With the blue extractor spring insert... tell that to my fingers who tried to pull out the extractor pin, turned out the extractor spring also came with an O-ring.

    M4gery? Because it doesn't say M4 on the lower.
  9. nathanours

    nathanours Texan

    So how is my colt le6920 different than a military issue m4? Only in barrel length and selective fire modes?
  10. Hmmm that's about it. Plus it's YOURS, not Uncle Sam's.
  11. bluejdixon

    bluejdixon Ammo Hoarder

    :rofl: First time seeing that!
  12. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    Because people always try to emulate what they cannot have, in this case the military issued infantry carbine designated M4 made by Colt manufacturing to military specs.

    People spec theirs out with all the rails, VFG, optics, sling, and whatnot to try to make it look like something a soldier would carry so it looks the same by all outward appearances but internally, it is not even close.

    HAIL CAESAR Senior Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    In my shop
    Me too, that is hilarious!:rofl:
  14. Three-Five-Seven

    Three-Five-Seven Señor Mombo Millennium Member

    Aug 8, 1999
    Great Southwest
    M4 is a copyrighted designation of the Colt's Patented Firearms Manufacturing Company. Any use of the the term "M4" by any other entity is a violation of Colt's intellectual property rights.

    Since "M4" is not a generic term defining a type of weapon, it may not be used to describe weapons that are 16" carbines, 1/7 twist barrels, w/ feed ramps made by any manufacturer other than Colt's.
  15. wackjum


    Mar 17, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Sorry. That's not correct. Colt sued Bushmaster over the use of the M4 trademark in Federal district court and lost. Colt then appealed the ruling to the Federal 1st Circuit and lost there too. So M4 is a generic description.
  16. Glockdude1

    Glockdude1 Federal Member CLM

    May 24, 2000
  17. Colt lost that court case most likely due to the fact that they sold the rights for the M4 to the military when they took on the contract. The military owns the copyrights to all weapons they use and are allowed to issue copyrights to anyone anytime if they need to. This is generally only done if they are in need of more guns than the manufacturer can produce themselves, so during Desert Storm when Colt was unable to keep up with demand from the Army the military issued a copyright to produce 4000 M4's for them. Just like the 1911, Garand, and M14 which were all produced by several companies. Currently Colt and Bushmaster are the only two companies with copyrights to the M4 and Colt and FNH are the only two with copyrights to the M16 I believe.
  18. RMTactical

    RMTactical CLM

    Oct 7, 2000
    Behind an AR-15

    M4 is not a designation owned by Colt, although they are the only ones with the contract for making M4's for the military.
  19. Copis


    Dec 30, 2007
    First time for me too......toooooooo funny
  20. bjesse60


    Aug 7, 2008
    A true M4 Carbine regardless of brand are 14.5" in barrel length, there is not a real M4 in combat use that uses a 16" carbine m4 barrel, this is why I prefer my m4gery to be a 14.5 carbine & my 16 to be a midlength. :cool: