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Why is there something rather than nothing?

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Gunhaver, May 10, 2012.


  1. Gunhaver

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    Because nobody is around to ask the question until there is something and has been something for quite some time.

    Seems simple enough. :dunno:
     

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    Isaiah 53:4-9

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    There is something, because it was created. You were created with a mind and free will. That is why you are able to ask the question.
     

  3. Animal Mother

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    I'm sure we all await your evidence of this. And please, actual words, not 3 more hours of tangentially related videos if you don't mind.
     
  4. TKM

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    There is only something here.

    In a parallel universe, who knows? :dunno:
     
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    Because chances are there would be.
     
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    Life is just a lie... With an f in it. And death is definite.
     
  7. Kingarthurhk

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    Isaiah 53:4-9

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    I really don't see a point. When presented with facts and evidence, if it displeases the Atheists here, it is rejected for the sake of rejecting it.
     
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    Facts and evidence reliant on snake oil salesmen presenting unproven mythological anecdotes and biblical references from tall tales made up thousands of years ago?
     
  9. Animal Mother

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    The point is to support your claim.
    Please share an example of this, because I don't believe it is true.
     
  10. Kingarthurhk

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    My point exactly. In another thread it was pointed out that the historical Jesus can be proved from independant historical texts, and this was pretty much the reaction. Because, no matter how much evidence presented, when someone's religious predalections will prevent them from wanting to believe. Thus, underscoring what Doc has been saying all along, Atheism is a religion.
     
  11. GreenDrake

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    Regurgitated stories do not equate to factual representation of verfiable data. Why is that so difficult to understand? Atheism is not a religion, it is the lack of belief in a deity, of any kind.
     
  12. Animal Mother

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    That wasn't the reaction, the reaction was an entirely reasonable position that the independent evidence supports the existence of a guy named Jesus in Jerusalem and of Christians in Rome. Neither of those things either verify the Jesus of the Gospels as historical nor offer a proof of his divinity.
    There is more evidence for Odin and Thor's existence than there is for Christ's divinity. Do you accept that Odin, Thor and the Aesir exist and inhabit Asgard? If not, why not?
     
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    For what it's worth, I believe that there is a high probablity that there was a man named Jesus that lived, became a religious leader and was executed about 2000 years ago. I believe the available historical record supports that. It's the more fanciful parts of the tale that are in need of more substantial proof.
     
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    Exactly. The late Christopher Hitchens said he didn't want there to be a God, and that if he saw a miracle it would probably be a delusion or something. There's no arguing with such people.
     
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    Geko, I give you point for honesty for admitting there is a historical Jesus. I agree, the rest of it is what this debate is all about.
     
  17. Paul7

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    Nice try, you're mixing 'existence' with 'divinity'. Is there a historian the stature of Cornelius Tacitus who attested to Odin and Thor?
     
  18. Animal Mother

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    Yes, there is. Saxo Grammaticus and Snorri Sturluson, both of whom testify both to their existence and their divinity.

    I mixed the two because while there is a difference between the existence of the person Jesus and the divinity of Christ in orthodox Christianity, there's no such divide for the Aesir.
     
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    Why are we here?

    It is an awesome fact that we know that we are here.

    We get to choose to believe anything we want to believe. People have explained creation in a variety of ways, but who really knows? We believe this or that and in the end, die with our beliefs whether they were right or wrong.

    Why is there stuff? For us to enjoy!
     
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  20. Gunhaver

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    Remember to cut along the wrist, not across it.