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Why Are Atheists So Obsessed With Disproving God's Existence?

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by JBnTX, Apr 6, 2012.

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  1. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    I don't know how you take it. You should take it as a request to reference a post where I've made an effort to disprove God, given that you claimed I have done so.
     
  2. Gunhaver

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    "We need to ban porn because the invisible hydrant fairies don't like it."
    "Gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married because the invisible hydrant fairies don't like that."
    "The invisible hydrant fairy theory of creation should be taught as science in schools."

    Yeah, after you cross a certain point of expecting others to take you seriously you need to provide actual proof. What's that you say? The hydrant fairies require you to come to them on faith and don't provide evidence of their existence? Then they may want to rethink their approach.

    "But this country was founded on invisible hydrant fairy principles!"

    BFD. They couldn't prove it then and they can't now.
     

  3. Tommy Hanrahan

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    As a card carrying atheist I swear I have never tried to to disprove the existence of any god. Having lived 48 yrs as a devout catholic I can confidently say there is no supreme being, no man in the sky, no all powerful and ever loving god. Religion is a load of dung.
    If you believe in something that helps you feel better about your life, good for you, enjoy. But do not push it on some one who does not want or need it.
     
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  4. muscogee

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    You want me to prove a haploid zombie who allegedly ascended into Heaven 2000 years ago but left no evidence of his existence other than gossip isn't God? I really don't think I need to.
     
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  5. Bren

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    I have a question: Why Are Christians So Obsessed With Proving God's Existence?

    Doesn't that demonstrate a lack of faith?
     
  6. Norske

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    I have always wondered why if Jesus's "message" was so all-fired important to him, why he did not write it down.

    Same with Mohammed and the Quaran.

    Both left their messages to be written (and folded, spindled, and mutilated in the process ) by others, after they each died, or were taken bodily into heaven, as the case may have been.

    :upeyes:
     
  7. Geko45

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    Your logic is flawed.

    I can't be certain that I am not a bodiless mind floating in empty space and that I have halucinated my entire perceived reality in order to entertain myself and keep myself occupied (although, I don't know why I'd dream up some of these characters in this forum). I can't disprove that. It is not possible for me to be absolutely certain that this is not the case. At the same time, I feel comfortable stating that this is not happening.

    No need for me to know all that is knowable to discount this absurd scenario nor to discount the absurd scenario of a supreme deity.

    Because religion causes soceity to misallocate necessary resources, it attempts to place uneeded limitations on individual (read "my") liberty, it costs lives in the form of holy wars. It is a scourge upon mankind that needs to be eradicated.
     
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    Actually, I have, multiple times. In fact, no one has yet been able to defeat my proof. They always fall back on the "transcedence" argument. Which they are unable to prove.
     
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  9. Dalton Wayne

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    The burden of proof is on the believers until they show me something I can see, touch, taste smell. other then a fictional book written hundreds of years after the fact I'll remain an atheist.
    now show me some proof I'm all ears
     
  10. Snapper2

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    Proof is life itself. Its the only proof any of us ever gets.Not ending after death, our beliefs live on. We pass on our believing or unbelieving hearts to those that know us or who are close to us. Even our actions influence others be it positive or negatively. Seeing, touching,taste,smell are natural senses that can be fooled. People who are without a few of these are usually extra strong in the others.God deals with the heart of a man first. Not the senses.
     
  11. Dalton Wayne

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    Would a loving god allow this
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  12. Snapper2

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    I think He would allow our hearts to be broken. That is heartbreaking. Maybe He is as heartbroken we allow this as well?
     
  13. Tilley

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    Well...the good old USA has spent billions of dollars to make sure the middle east is nice and safe. And exactly what do we spend to save the innocent children?

    And you Mr. Wayne, are you willing to help these kids?

    And by the way, God did not spare his own son at OUR hands. If a loving God paid us for our own dirt-baggery, no one would be alive.
     
  14. JBnTX

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    God didn't allow that, man did.

    This is man's world, not God's.

    We have free will to do as we please, and one day man will be judged
    for what he has done.

    Don't try to blame it on God.
    Just look in a mirror if you want to place blame.

    ..
     
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    If good things happen, you say, "praise God". If bad things happen you say, "it's not God's fault". I really don't buy into the "no fault God concept". If God is who he says he is, he can stop unnecessary suffering. The fact that he does not stop it means he is on board with it or he is lying when he claims to be omnipotent.
     
  16. JBnTX

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    The Bible explains it, read it.
     
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    Why should I believe it?
     
  18. JK-linux

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    Actually, I've never read anything by an atheist that proves God does not exist. Most atheists don't seem to be any more obsessed about arguing the topic than most religious people I know. It just doesn't come up that much in real life, outside the internet, except as a handy political tool to keep people divided and arguing semantics.
     
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    And this is the strength of the christian religion and all successful religions - have an answer for everything that keeps you from ever being pinned down to an inconsistency, so most people never see through it.
     
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    If the theists could prove that God exists (or if God him/her/itself proved it in unmistakeable fashion) then there WOULD NOT BE ANY agnostics nor aetheists, now would there?

    We agnostics/aetheists ARE agnostic/aetheist because all you theists do such a lousy job of supporting your views on the subject.
     
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