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Why a Shotgun for home defense?

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by ennis, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. ennis

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    I see tons of people discussing their "HD" shotguns. Maybe I just live in a small house, but a shotgun seems unwieldy in tight, indoor spaces. Without bashing me too much, can folks explain the thinking in choosing a shotgun over handguns? Thanks
     
  2. wrenrj1

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    No bashing necessary, it's a personal choice.

    It may not work for you, but others like shotty's for various reasons. Gauge, and a multitude of different rounds you can load from bird shot, to buckshot, to slugs. Over penetration is an issue if you may live in an apartment etc. Just racking the slide of a pump is intimidating itself. Point and shoot is also a positive aspect of a shotty as the projectiles expand in area thus increasing the chance of a hit.
     


  3. GAFinch

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    When you hold a pistol with your arms straight out, it's just as far from your body as a shotgun.
     
  4. K.Kiser

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    Why a shotgun..? First - a shoulder weapon tends to fired more accurately IMO... Secondly - no pistol offered is gonna stop the BS like a scattergun will... Many pistol cartridge play cards together and brag about their ability to stop a fight, but then a 12 ga. busts through the door and pimps slaps them all, drinks their beers, kisses their women, craps in their toilets, urinates on their fire, eats their twinkies, and tells them that it's time to go to bed on a school night... Any questions..?
     
  5. aippi

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    If you need a firearm to defend yourself it becomes a gun fight. So, if you are going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.
     
  6. m24shooter

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    Up close against an un-armored target there is nothing that will put a biblical hurt on somebody like a shotgun.
    There is going to be a very large wound with 8 or 9 wound tracks (assuming 00) radiating out from the entrance wound if the target is within 5-7 yards (farther if you're running a modified gun or using FC loads) if you do your part and aim. Pellet spread isn't going to do very much to offset poor or no aiming at close distances, it is more than point and shoot.
    As with anything, there are tradeoffs, and the user has to keep those in mind so that they are aware of the shortcomings of the shotgun and act accordingly.
     
  7. dc2integra

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    Id rather have a long gun than a handgun in any situation were i have to defend myself.I use my handgun to get to my shotgun :supergrin:
     
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  8. Sheepdog Scout

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    A man after my heart. And Jeff Coopers.

    I love handguns. I believe more than any other people, Americans have an affinity for handguns. Handguns to me, are strictly a second or third option compared to a rifle or shotgun if one is available.
     
  9. vista461

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  10. MrMurphy

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    I prefer a rifle for indoor work by vocation, training and experience. Right behind that is a good 12 gauge. Pistols are inherently weak stoppers. A shotgun, with a single round of buckshot, is a bit different than a pistol. A pistol you get off 2-3 rounds in quick succession and hope you hit center mass.

    A shotgun round is a .33 caliber pellet bringing six or seven friends along for the ride all in the same area. One pellet might not hit something vital, but odds are 'the friends' did. If you put the round where it needs to go, one of them has a far higher chance of hitting something that matters.

    Shotguns do have their downsides, such as low ammo capacity. But for most house defense situations if you exceed 3 rounds fired you're run into an MS13 hit squad or the guys who you are up against are extremely determined.

    I prefer 30 rounds of 5.56 myself, because i've spent years clearing buildings with an M4. But a shotgun OR a rifle is not particularly any longer than a pistol in a standard shooting stance. Considering how many rooms, bathrooms, hallways, closets, portapotties, aircraft cockpits, trucks, cars, Humvees, attics, and everthing else i've managed to get myself into with a rifle and body armor on.....doing it with a shotgun would not have been appreciably harder. I've cleared rooms with an M249 machine gun, which is a hell of a lot bulkier than an 870.

    Unless you have training and brought friends, you don't clear buildings. Not unless it's a serious emergency. In either case, i'd prefer a long gun. The pistol is a backup, or used in circumstances where only one hand is available (carrying a kid for example). In most situations, hunkering down, calling the cops, and aiming at the door is the survivable answer. Use the shotgun as a hallway howitzer. If they come through the door, they're getting 8-32 pellets coming their way in a hurry.
     
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  11. mixflip

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    Your chances of "stopping" a threat with one pull of the trigger is far higher on a shotgun. Thats my #1 reason.

    #2, I can hit a moving target easier with a shotgun and 00-buck than I can with a handgun. (example, I cant hit clay pigeons for nothing with my handgun?)

    I look at it this way...if a mentally disturbed person with a knife was charging at me... I'd rather have a shotgun loaded with 00-buck.

    Btw I personally feel its foolish to go clearing a house of home invaders alone. I always tell my wife, if someone is kicking in the door, grab the shotgun, make it ready for live fire, retreat to a back room, lock the door, take cover behind a bed or dresser, cover the door with the muzzle at all times (aka the fatal funnel), call 911 and put it on speaker phone, yell out that you called the cops and you have a gun, if they still try to open the door.... identify that they are indeed the bad guys and "blow them away!!!"

    Hunting them down leaves you susceptible to falling right into an ambush by multiple bad guys. Of course rescuing your kids is a valid reason to venture out.
     
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  12. Sheepdog Scout

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    This is the philosophy I subscribe to as well. In a home invasion situation, if you can help it, it's better to retreat to an area than clearing the house. Especially if you're alone.
     
  13. j.primo

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    ^^FTW

    Hahahah
     
  14. KK40384

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    :rofl:I laughed so hard I think I peed a little :rofl:
     

  15. i do believe this is signature material.
     
  16. Beware Owner

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    This thread is hilarious. Personally, I have a tendency to make head shots. Couple that with the fact that I have two sweet little girls and their mommy there, wonder why they call them Mossy....do they mean "messy"?
     
  17. Kegs

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    A shotgun is the hardest hitter available to the typical civilian homeowner.

    Want a shorty, here it is:

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    Available here:http://www.tromix.com/saiga.htm

    For a serious home invasion by crackheads, meth dealers or gangs of the urban sort, , I would most definitely prefer this + armor over anything I can think of. I would not use 0 or 00 buck, but rather 000 buckshot, just a personal preference.

    Consider custom loads with tungsten carbide bearings for punks using soft armor. A few flagged mags handy should do the trick.

     
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  18. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

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    Looks absolutely perverted and sick...I love it! :supergrin:
     
  19. DRAGON1970

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    To all involved. Do you keep your shotguns on the nightstand??
     
  20. Aceman

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    I will not say that pistola does not have its advantages - because it does. And your skill/comfort with the weapon of choice counts for a lot too. It's a totally reasonable question. My response:

    #1 Long gun inherently more accurate - and I'm more accurate with it
    #2 Buck = more margin for error on shot placement
    #3 More shot = more likelihood of critical hit
    #4 Better stopper overall than any handgun
    #5 Higher utility as a weapon (large steel stick) for me
    #6 I'm more certain of my skill with it, and more comfortable shooting it