I have the Tamer grips. It beats up my palm aches with +P ammo. I shoot a 357 snubby with no issues. I shoot 357 Magnums in all of my full sized revolvers and I have no issues with subcompacts like the Glock 27 or even P938. Today I received my Eagle Grips Secret Service grips. I hope these help. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!