A Glock 17 or a Glock 23? Either would accompany my .30-06. Maybe use it if I was presented a shot under 20 yards.
That's right. A G23 weighs several ounces less than a G17.The G23 does carry easier than the G17. Still debating. The whole debate may prove to be a moot point if I can't find the time to go this year. I think I will though.
So I guess this means you'll be shooting deer with a .22 now?Have you seen what modern pistol bullets will withstand? XTP bullets are tough. The modern bonded bullets hold together well too. Deer are thin skinned game. I think it's Winchester that is making .223 ammo for deer now. A 9mm pistol bullet is plenty tough enough to penetrate to vital organs in the accepted performance window of the cartridge.
If a 9mm can punch through a windshield or car door and still make 12 inches in gel, I think it'll work on a deer with no armor.
Now you're just being ridiculous.So I guess this means you'll be shooting deer with a .22 now?
Notice how he said it can go through a wind shield or car door (which you highlighted) AND penetrate 12" in gel?So I guess this means you'll be shooting deer with a .22 now?
Ruger .22 Pistol vs Car door - YouTube
Just like hunting a large game animal with a 9mm is normal?:upeyes:Now you're just being ridiculous.
Who said that? I suggested the 9mm for a finishing shot on a downed but still alive deer.Just like hunting a large game animal with a 9mm is normal?:upeyes:
The entire point of this thread is not to use the 9mm as a primary firearm, but as a short range weapon. The ranges were stated early on. The 9mm is being utilized as a sidearm to a .30-06 rifle.Just like hunting a large game animal with a 9mm is normal?:upeyes:
Don't be too concerned - he is just being argumentative. :upeyes:The entire point of this thread is not to use the 9mm as a primary firearm, but as a short range weapon. The ranges were stated early on. The 9mm is being utilized as a sidearm to a .30-06 rifle.
And for the record, whitetail deer is considered medium, thin skinned game. But that's just semantics.
It is semantics considering their pelt is thicker than human skin, and their bone structure is denser.The entire point of this thread is not to use the 9mm as a primary firearm, but as a short range weapon. The ranges were stated early on. The 9mm is being utilized as a sidearm to a .30-06 rifle.
And for the record, whitetail deer is considered medium, thin skinned game. But that's just semantics.
No, I am wondering how many of the mall ninjas really are hunters.Don't be too concerned - he is just being argumentative. :upeyes:
I think this would qualify as mall ninjaish if the thread was about using a 40 to kill a deer at 100 yards.No, I am wondering how many of the mall ninjas really are hunters.
VT deer season is approaching for me. I deer hunt every year.No, I am wondering how many of the mall ninjas really are hunters.
A friend of my dads deer hunted every year for over 30 years.VT deer season is approaching for me. I deer hunt every year.
I carry a g23 if I'm deer hunting or not. No more trouble to carry hunting than it is on any other day.Carrying a G17 would be a PITA. Too big so it will just get in the way. You really want to lug a full size Glock 17, with your bow and gear, while dragging a dead deer out of the woods?
.40S&W is a better caliber for woods walking and hunting. Personally I have a G27 and a Walther PPS in .40 that I use when out in the woods. The G23 should do you just fine.
G23 is a great pistol!!!!I carry a g23 if I'm deer hunting or not. No more trouble to carry hunting than it is on any other day.
Oh and one of the properties I hunt is adjacent to a medium security prison.
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That makes good sense. Now I understand. :supergrin:The loaded weight between the G17 and G23 is not much. The G23 is only an ounce lighter.
The PITA is the size. A full size service pistol needs to be carried on the hip, and it will just get in the way when your gutting and hauling. Compacts and subcompacts are just more comfortable to carry.
G17 Length 8.03" , height 5.43"
G23 Length 7.3", Height 5.00"
There's no need for a head or neck shot when a 10mm can give a complete pass through on a deer. 800+ ft lbs is plenty for normal harvesting of the animal.First, if you are going to shoot any size deer with a pistol it should be a neck or head shot. That does not leave room for a non-lethal placement. If you can't hit those spots you should not be taking the shot. Second, Glock 21 or 1911 with a .460 Rowland conversion. My personal whitetail pistol is a S&W 44 mag. The .460 Rowland is 44 mag ballistics out of a semi-auto frame.
Please never give hunting advice again. You are very misinformed and have obviously never hunted deer before.First, if you are going to shoot any size deer with a pistol it should be a neck or head shot. That does not leave room for a non-lethal placement. If you can't hit those spots you should not be taking the shot.
Misinformed? I understand ballistics quite well. It as a matter of accuracy and challenge. Anyone can go for brown and down. Body shots are for either bow hunting or wasting meat and poor aim with a center fire.Please never give hunting advice again. You are very misinformed and have obviously never hunted deer before.
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