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When to cut your losses?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by GJ1981, Nov 18, 2010.

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  1. GJ1981

    GJ1981 Pitying Fools

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    Well, I got back from a quick range trip which was meet with disappointing results, again. I have not been able to get one of my 1911's to go 200 rounds without a FTF recently, typically I've been getting 2-4 3-point malfunction's per 100 rounds.

    I have cleaned the pistol, changed springs, checked extractor tension, tried different ammo, EGW mag catch, different mags, even returned it twice to the builder...nothing is helping. I have never had so many problems with ANY pistol, let along one with this price tag.

    I am not having any problems with my other 1911's so I'm ruling out the shooter or ammo as the culprits.

    I like the pistol, but I just can't trust it enough to carry and have little use for safe queens. On the other hand, I don't want to sell it since I'd take a horrible loss.

    So, when's enough, enough? I've thought about sending it to a LTW smith to see if he can get it running, but I'm not sure I feel like dropping more money into an already high dollar pistol. Kinda defeats the purpose of spending the money to begin with.

    I've seen a trend where malfunctioning pistol threads get few responses so....lets see.
     
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  2. Quack

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    man, that sucks :(
     

  3. drc767

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    Do you care to share some build specifics?
     
  4. Quack

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    I know which gun he speaks of.
     
  5. Hokie1911

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    Maybe another trip back to the builder with a long detailed conversation of the issues? Process of elimination to find out what's wrong. Pain in the ass, but better than eating a big loss unloading it.
     
  6. Sometimes you have to (cut your losses), but if it's a high-dollar pistol, I hope it was done by a reputable builder. And if that is the case, I'd get the gun back to him and insist he get it running and not return it until it was. But maybe your experiences with this builder already preclude that option? :dunno: You could also take it to another gunsmith, of course, if you know a good one...as a last resort. I'd hate to give up on something like that...especially since the 'right' hands can almost always make them work. All guns, after all, are relatively simple mechanisms.
     
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  7. Quack

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    if it's the gun i think it is, it should run right out of the box.
     
  8. GJ1981

    GJ1981 Pitying Fools

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    Not right now, I try not to post much when I'm upset. I'm trying to stay positive on the situation...while my patience lasts.

    I will say it's a "name" shop/builder.
     
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  9. Hokie1911

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    Fusion????

    :rofl:
    Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
  10. GJ1981

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    I don't think so...

    [​IMG]
     
  11. brisk21

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    maybe this is a stupid questions, but have you demanded your money back from the company? If I buy a gun that costs over 1k, and send it back to the company twice and they cant get it running, I either want a new one that will run or my money back so I can go buy a different high end pistol.
     
  12. dnuggett

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    When will you share the name?
     
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    I don't think there is much wrong with arguing strongly with the builder/shop that this pistol does not run as you have the right to expect it too. I agree with the other poster, and would probably demand that he/they take the pistol and get it running right before returning it to you, or you would like your money back. Of course, the longer you wait, and the more rounds you put through it, the more difficult this will be.
    I hope you get it figured out!
    Also, I commend your not starting a rant thread to bash the builder while you are are upset. There may be a time for that, but you wanting to ensure it is deserved and fairly done when it happens is admirable.
    Good luck!
    Sarge
     
  16. FLIPPER 348

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    Threads like this make me glad I build my won 1911s.


    Seriously dude, demand the builder fixes the firearm or retune your $$$. I don't see the issue.
     
  17. bac1023

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    That's a shame.
     
  18. drc767

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    Are the only malfunctions your are having are 3 point failures? Have you had anybody check the barrel link? I would check to see if the barrel is riding the link, causing a 3 point malfunction. Just for a test.....try a heavier recoil spring. It is not going to fix a link issue, but it may put a band aid on it and point you toward the link being the actual culprit of the issue. Don't give up on this thing.....it can most certainly be fixed.
     
  19. Russ424

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    Don't give up on the thing! You say you had the gun built which means that you had it built to your specs and if you can get it working I can imagine it would have to then be one of your favorite guns. You also say that is was built by good builder which to me would mean that they would stand to take the gun back for a third time. After a long detailed discussion with the builder once more and a third trip back I would not hesitate to ask for a replacement or your money back.
     
  20. paul45

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    I agree with requiring a 100% product or a 100% refund.
     
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