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What's the best Penetrator 5.56 ammo?

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by TheBigCroaker, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. TheBigCroaker

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    Anyone tried either Lake City (Federal) 5.56 M855 SS109 Penetrator ammo yet. Looks like surplus being sold everywhere;
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    PMC X-TAC 5.56 SS109 Light armor piercing.
    Both have excellent price right now, but wondering if the Lake City is a bit scruffy (seconds).
     
  2. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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    Winchester Ranger M855 seems to perk up the ears of experienced shooters.
     

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  3. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    All M855, and SS109, are going to perform the same, they're all built to the same standard.


    Similarly, all the M193 loads, are the same.

    What is it you want to shoot through?
     
  4. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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    Not exactly true.

    http://www.ak47.net/lite/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=519740
     
  5. KalashniKEV

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  6. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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    I would wager that 200 rounds of IMI or Ranger will outshoot 200 rounds of PMC - all else being equal.

    I'll not say more on this, since it's really a moot point, and I don't want to be argumentative.

    All M855 rounds are essentially the same. But there are differences, particularly in accuracy.
     
  7. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    They're all made to the same standard, hence the M855 designation.

    there's still a range allowed in the tolerances. Priv/PMC may not have the strictest QC, but I'd bet they fall within the normal specs for the load.
     
  8. cowboy1964

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    "Not for duty use" most likely means ammo that didn't meet full specs, i.e. rejected ammo. Probably still works for the most part. Ok for plinking, not for duty use (gee, where did we hear that before?)
     
  9. ri.ben

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    hey blkrifle forum.first post over here for me i think.

    from what i've read the 193 penetrates steel as well as 855 under 100 yards.the 855 was made to penetrate a helmet at 300.also i thought 855(at least the newer one) was different than 109 and fragmented more reliably.which i guess still isn't so great.
     
  10. woclimit2008

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    Huh??????
     
  11. I"m sure someone can link it, but there is a list of approved SD loads by a well respected expert. The Ranger M855 was on the list while noted that 855 isn't ideal for SD because it wouldn't yaw, the ranger did well enough to make the list.

    I picked up a bunch for SG when it was available. I alternate rounds in my mags with the Ranger soft point.
     
  12. beatcop

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  13. MajorD

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    m855 was developed for better long range accuracy (which quite honestly it does not have) and better penetration of light armor (non trauma plate body armor helmets lightly armored vehicles) which is not a consideration in civilian use. I'd go with lead core ammo for defensive use
     
  14. WoodenPlank

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    Bingo. The only reason I keep mags of green tip for SHTF use is for vehicles. Rip a few of them through an engine block, and you have decent odds of bringing that vehicle to a stop. Otherwise, I stick to 77, 75 and 55 grain OTM and ball.
     
  15. AK_Stick

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    yeah, that motor will stop, but not for quite a while. 5.56 is terrible for stopping a truck.
     
  16. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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  17. zhix

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    FWIW, I just ordered a bunch of Federal American Eagle branded M855 Lake City brass from East Coast Gun Sales for what I believe to be a decent price; 50 boxes(1,000 rds) for under $382 shipped.
    I bought some Winchester/Olin m855 a while back a gun show but when I opened them up they looked like they had looked old and dull and most of the brass had little dents in it, though they shot without any problems.